Deposits & Advance Payments For Escorts

[e-smile]

Except, as discussed also in TAG before, it is not that uncommon to be compensated for taking a job interview.

so according to your estimation, compensated job itw represents which percentage of the job interviews ?
just to have an idea of what you call "not that uncommon".

 

[e-smile]

The discussion is about deposits for new clients in Tokyo within an hour of Hana's home. Not a 3-4 hr trip from Shizuoka or Chiba. Therefore my comments about compensation in regards to @MikeH comments about being compensated for interviews in relation to the distance Hana would be traveling. In most industries most people are not going to get compensated for going to an interview that is 1hr away from their home (unless that's 1hr by Shinkansen of course). I've been taken out to lunch for interviews, but I don't really consider that compensation, that's just a bonus because the interviewer needed lunch and decided to do it while interviewing me. I have once been compensated for flying out to the west coast, but only for my travel and hotel. Not for my time while I was at the interview.

ftr: I don't agree with @e-smile's opinion. The person made the appointment with her. At that point as far as anyone should be concerned she got the job. If the person isn't happy with her when they first meet he should offer her something for her time, unless there is a deposit in place where in that case she should just keep it.

Your point makes sense to me, the market is the way it is.
I just think the clients aren't making it "safer" for them and that it wouldn't be unfair if they asked for a meeting before the real session and before confirming a booking. Call me old fashioned but that way you get the hints you have when you pick up a working girl in a bar.

 

[MikeH]

so according to your estimation, compensated job itw represents which percentage of the job interviews ?
just to have an idea of what you call "not that uncommon".

As said it probably depends on the field and position. In my field even if you are hiring a standard desk jockey then you would pay him daily allowance and travel costs if he needs to spend half a day for the interview and travel. If he is in the same area anyway then the interview might be just a lunch meeting and no compensation is expected.

Though I am not so sure any of this is very relevant to the escort situation. For me that is more like hiring a consultant to do a job in which case it would be understandable to charge for the travel also. However I would expect that to be included in the total price myself. But then again I would not be cancelling the meeting either.

 

[poutine]

Not a 3-4 hr trip from Shizuoka or Chiba

I hate to tell you, but your donkey may be lame sir.

 

[Sudsy]

compensated job itw represents which percentage of the job interviews ?

It's fairly standard among most larger companies. Some will give out a standard disbursement for local interviewees, while most will pay travel and meal, and occasionally lodging, costs for people coming longer distances.

 

[TheScientist]

I see it the same way as a job interview, you prepare yourself in a way you think it would help you make a good impression and don't expect any compensation for it if you don't get the job

When I interview or interview others it is a situation where an ongoing business relationship is at stake. For one off fixed price jobs an interview isn't needed. Also for general business the clothing is "everyday" use, not "fancy" and for women the price rage of cosmetics is quite different as well.

 

[Desktop]

If there are a high amount of flakes you should think like a business analyst or talk to one. Get feedback & cut off that segment or improve on the issue.

 

[User#8628]

I dont think going to an appointment is like going to a job interview.
There is not much interviewing being done and you get to work straight. Its more like being hired for a one day job, getting ready and showing up and then getting to work.
You are expecting not to be turned down if your pictures and description were clear and they hired you based on that. You could probably still get turned down for such a day job, i dont know.

As for job interviews, i heard in Japan its not uncommon to get some taxi or travel fees covered, even when you get turned down, or maybe it was more common when the economy was better but i have heard of it.

 

[TAG Manager]

If there are a high amount of flakes you should think like a business analyst or talk to one. Get feedback & cut off that segment or improve on the issue.

Statistically... the girls with higher rates have a lower cancellation or no-show rate. Cancellation reasons vary, but at least they give some notice and don't wait until the last hour to cancel. Experiences vary of course, but I feel like I've heard less problems from girls with higher rates.

Those who do careful screening also usually have less cancels or no-shows.

 

[User#6517]

Statistically... the girls with higher rates have a lower cancellation or no-show rate. Cancellation reasons vary, but at least they give some notice and don't wait until the last hour to cancel. Experiences vary of course, but I feel like I've heard less problems from girls with higher rates.

Those who do careful screening also usually have less cancels or no-shows.

Yes, that’s definitely true..

I feel like if you’re a low-end provider, you’ll be catering a whole lot more to “budget clients”. Since these clients have to work with a tighter budget than VIP/elite clients, they might get second thoughts at the last minute due to their financial situation.

I still get cancellations on a regular basis, but it’s not as bad as when I worked for an agency with lower rates.

 

[TAG Manager]

you’ll be catering a whole lot more to “budget clients”. Since these clients have to work with a tighter budget than VIP/elite clients

These are the guys who don't bring enough money for both the escort and the hotel. I think some guys expect that the escort pays for the hotel or it's free.
I'm being dead serious. I got a text from someone who got left at the love hotel lobby and the dude just ran away and never came back. (Edit: He said he was going to get more money.)

 

[RoboReptar]

A small deposit makes sense to hedge against no-shows (3000 yen would cover transportation/time?) but I wouldn't ever end up paying anything over 5000

 

[jhingy567]

These are the guys who don't bring enough money for both the escort and the hotel. I think some guys expect that the escort pays for the hotel or it's free.
I'm being dead serious. I got a text from someone who got left at the love hotel lobby and the dude just ran away and never came back. (Edit: He said he was going to get more money.)

I can understand first-timers being confused about this, especially if the girl makes the arrangements choosing the LH. Girls also don't explicitly state this as well (they assume it's common sense? Anyone seen idiocracy?)
In some countries taxi drivers expect you to pay the toll, in others it is already included in the final price.

But running away at the last moment?? LOL.

 

[TAG Manager]

I can understand first-timers being confused about this, especially if the girl makes the arrangements choosing the LH. Girls also don't explicitly state this as well (they assume it's common sense? Anyone seen idiocracy?)

Umm... aside from escorts, at least in Japan, most services expect you to check into a hotel first and then the girl will be sent.

The guy in the above case asked for the cheapest LH possible for a 1 hour session, which would have been about ~4,500 yen? (Think Hotel X O, or something along those lines.)

 

[impish]

I hate to tell you, but your donkey may be lame sir.

No, in southern chiba there are not as many train routes and have more bus routes unless you're along the coast. Most people in inner southern chiba take a bus to the trains. It can take 2-3 hours to get to Tokyo at that point. If you are in Shizuoka you're probably in for a 2 hour ride to Tokyo via train, as I know it takes at least that long by car on the expressway.

 

[e-smile]

It's fairly standard among most larger companies. Some will give out a standard disbursement for local interviewees, while most will pay travel and meal, and occasionally lodging, costs for people coming longer distances.

for a job interview ?

 

[e-smile]

When I interview or interview others it is a situation where an ongoing business relationship is at stake. For one off fixed price jobs an interview isn't needed. Also for general business the clothing is "everyday" use, not "fancy" and for women the price rage of cosmetics is quite different as well.

indeed and that's why I was talking about a meeting before confirming the booking (for another day), that way the girl can have an idea about the client and vice versa. the clothing doesn't have to be fancier than a clothing and make up she would wear for a job interview or an audition.

 

[TheScientist]

indeed and that's why I was talking about a meeting before confirming the booking (for another day), that way the girl can have an idea about the client and vice versa. the clothing doesn't have to be fancier than a clothing and make up she would wear for a job interview or an audition.

Makes no sense, its essentially like a sales conference that shows of an unfinished version of the product without the exterior design. It has the effect of lowering client expectation.

 

[Sudsy]

Have you considered a simple "If we meet and you're not into it, 5-10K and we walk away friends" policy for first timers? Or even a pre-session quick coffee meet, 5K that applies to the ssession afterwards if they follow through? Cuts down on their nerves, puts in mind the expectation that they show up and compensate you for your travel and prep?

 

[e-smile]

Makes no sense, its essentially like a sales conference that shows of an unfinished version of the product without the exterior design. It has the effect of lowering client expectation.

I respect you point of view but I don't share it

 

[Frenchy]

Makes no sense, its essentially like a sales conference that shows of an unfinished version of the product without the exterior design. It has the effect of lowering client expectation.

It's essentually what I did with SA meetings and with overall much more satisfaction. It makes a lot of sense in fact.

 

[TheScientist]

It's essentually what I did with SA meetings and with overall much more satisfaction. It makes a lot of sense in fact.

For SA an interview situation does make sense as it's more an ongoing contract than a one off job.