Hello - Is this all real?!

[Kotanji]

Good day!

So, I'm slowly starting to read into this whole new world.. Still have far to go but yeah, thinking more and more about using those services for the first time, since I will be in Japan in November (and hopefully be able to stay longer in the future, when I learned more Japanese)

No idea if this will be something for me or if I'll regret it but at least have to try. It probably will be horrible since I'm too shy and come too fast But oh well.
Surfing around feels like a fever dream somehow. Not sure if it's me being naive, or most of those site and girls are actually real Haven't seen one not beautiful woman. And how many "places" are there??

I'm also not entirely sure yet about all the people still writing about "not for foreigners", "not if you can't speak Japanese" etc. since I found dozens of dozens of websites and escorts that have "english" in their profile and whatnot. But maybe I'm missing something still.

I guess all those websites with all those women are actually real and you actually get the women advertised..

• As far as I gathered, price lists of places like "secretaries club" mean "25k" base fee, plus 40k or whatever on top of that for the women. Is the 40k (or whatever) advertised the full price (plus LH of course)?
• Do all/most girls wear stockings by default, or do I have to book the option "lingerie" or something? ;o)

I know people are (understandably) annoyed with noobie questions.. so, yeah. Just answer if you want (Would appreciate it though!)

Anyway, if I'll do it, I try to write a review here too.
Cheers,

 

[TAG Manager]

I'm also not entirely sure yet about all the people still writing about "not for foreigners", "not if you can't speak Japanese" etc. since I found dozens of dozens of websites and escorts that have "english" in their profile and whatnot. But maybe I'm missing something still.

You need to read this site more - keep in mind any sites with "English" are over charging and in some cases are bait-n-switch operations. Don't believe everything you see....

You seem like the kind of person that should probably find a different hobby instead of using fuzoku services.

 

[Ken4fb]

Good day!

So, I'm slowly starting to read into this whole new world.. Still have far to go but yeah, thinking more and more about using those services for the first time, since I will be in Japan in November (and hopefully be able to stay longer in the future, when I learned more Japanese)

No idea if this will be something for me or if I'll regret it but at least have to try. It probably will be horrible since I'm too shy and come too fast But oh well.
Surfing around feels like a fever dream somehow. Not sure if it's me being naive, or most of those site and girls are actually real Haven't seen one not beautiful woman. And how many "places" are there??

I'm also not entirely sure yet about all the people still writing about "not for foreigners", "not if you can't speak Japanese" etc. since I found dozens of dozens of websites and escorts that have "english" in their profile and whatnot. But maybe I'm missing something still.

I guess all those websites with all those women are actually real and you actually get the women advertised..

• As far as I gathered, price lists of places like "secretaries club" mean "25k" base fee, plus 40k or whatever on top of that for the women. Is the 40k (or whatever) advertised the full price (plus LH of course)?
• Do all/most girls wear stockings by default, or do I have to book the option "lingerie" or something? ;o)

I know people are (understandably) annoyed with noobie questions.. so, yeah. Just answer if you want (Would appreciate it though!)

Anyway, if I'll do it, I try to write a review here too.
Cheers,

You can always give the indies advertising on TAG a try.

Otherwise

 

[Danbo]

I'm also not entirely sure yet about all the people still writing about "not for foreigners", "not if you can't speak Japanese" etc. since I found dozens of dozens of websites and escorts that have "english" in their profile and whatnot.

Yeah, I think you discovered our dark secret. We have been making up hundreds of reviews over the years to mislead people into thinking that Japanese is required for most shops.

Book some English services and enlighten us how it went.

...

Jokes aside, like @TAG Manager mentioned, most services that advertise in English are aimed at tourists who have no clue how things work here and will take advantage of that and overcharge ridiculous amounts. Read reviews to see which services cater to English speaking foreigners and are trustworthy.

 

[MikeH]

Yeah, I think you discovered our dark secret. We have been making up hundreds of reviews over the years to mislead people into thinking that Japanese is required for most shops.

It is fine if that secret is now revealed. As long as they still continue to believe that the pictures are not accurate; we still get to secretly keep meeting those Chinese supermodels for 10.000 yens.

 

[Kotanji]

Damn, I feared I was gonna met with such hate. Has to be an internet forum thing
Oh well. I thought I was making clear I wasn't expecting anything "cheap". But ok. As far as I searched I thought anything around 40k would be "normal". And if that's overpriced.. Ok, to be honest, it's still fine for me.
Apparently the Alice here is very trustworthy and her service is 40k too??

So, if someone here still should be friendly. Just as example.
So all those places like
hisyo
y-shirt
are ripoffs then?

Because all those offer "english"?
That's my whole concern. I wasn't writing anything like "oh, you are all wrong" I was asking serious question. If those are all fake, ok, thank you for the info. That would help.
But actually, that wasn't the main point anyway. If it's like that, ok, sure, got it.
Still.. is there a reason there aren't any reviews for all those - because they are obvious fakes?

 

[Maxblack]

You can always give the indies advertising on TAG a try.

Otherwise
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Man, you gotta give me a chance to respond with this otherwise I got nothing to add 😑

 

[Kotanji]

Man, you gotta give me a chance to respond with this otherwise I got nothing to add 😑

So, y-shirt is legit. But only Kaoru?
And yes, there are almost no recent reviews in the indie advertising.
That's why I was asking. I was only wondering if that's why there are almost none or most people just don't care for those.
Same for y-shirt. So, all girls advertised are fake? (there are many with their X profile) Or people are just interested in Kaoru?

 

[Cinnabums]

It is fine if that secret is now revealed. As long as they still continue to believe that the pictures are not accurate; we still get to secretly keep meeting those Chinese supermodels for 10.000 yens.

Met many of those supermodels in Gotanda, Strong Zero is the secret, now the secret is out!

Damn, I feared I was gonna met with such hate. Has to be an internet forum thing

I see no hate to be honest.

 

[SoFreshSoClean]

Damn, I feared I was gonna met with such hate. Has to be an internet forum thing
Oh well. I thought I was making clear I wasn't expecting anything "cheap". But ok. As far as I searched I thought anything around 40k would be "normal". And if that's overpriced.. Ok, to be honest, it's still fine for me.
Apparently the Alice here is very trustworthy and her service is 40k too??

So, if someone here still should be friendly. Just as example.
So all those places like
hisyo
y-shirt
are ripoffs then?

Because all those offer "english"?
That's my whole concern. I wasn't writing anything like "oh, you are all wrong" I was asking serious question. If those are all fake, ok, thank you for the info. That would help.
But actually, that wasn't the main point anyway. If it's like that, ok, sure, got it.
Still.. is there a reason there aren't any reviews for all those - because they are obvious fakes?

It was once my first time doing something like this too, and to guarantee you get your money worth, without any hastle of finding a decent place, argue with tencho or mamasan, I could not recommend @Manami TMK enough 😍🤤🫠 only if you’re lucky enough and anticipate enough to find time with her.

Then to be fair, you weren’t met with any hate at all grow some thickness on that skin boy 🙏🏼 and enjoy yourself! Nothing to stress about, we’re all humans.

 

[Sudsy]

Damn, I feared I was gonna met with such hate.

Oh, sorry. We're slacking this weekend.

Try again next week, we'll do our best to break out some pitchforks and torches.

But seriously - you've clearly at least TRIED to do your own reading before asking. And we appreciate it.

Do all/most girls wear stockings by default, or do I have to book the option "lingerie" or something?

AFAIK you're the first one to ask that question.

There are some shops where this is standard attire, but for most it would be an option.

 

[Maxblack]

So, y-shirt is legit. But only Kaoru?
And yes, there are almost no recent reviews in the indie advertising.
That's why I was asking. I was only wondering if that's why there are almost none or most people just don't care for those.
Same for y-shirt. So, all girls advertised are fake? (there are many with their X profile) Or people are just interested in Kaoru?

Sigh…yeah ok sarcasm on the internet is hard I get it. Kaoru at Y is legit and recommended for beginners because she’s easy to book and amazing at all the soap stuff. Perfect first experience.
Everyone else reviewed on tag is legit; some are amazing some are not. Some are both amazing and not amazing depending on who is doing the reviewing!
Some are scams and are called out as such. Stay away.
The indies on here are 100% legit and probably reading this. Book one of them; you will absolutely have a wonderful time, especially (particularly) as a newbie.

 

[MikeH]

Met many of those supermodels in Gotanda, Strong Zero is the secret, now the secret is out!

No problems! As long as they don't find out that Asahi Super Dry works too but in bigger quantities!

 

[Kotanji]

Sigh…yeah ok sarcasm on the internet is hard I get it. Kaoru at Y is legit and recommended for beginners because she’s easy to book and amazing at all the soap stuff. Perfect first experience.
Everyone else reviewed on tag is legit; some are amazing some are not. Some are both amazing and not amazing depending on who is doing the reviewing!
Some are scams and are called out as such. Stay away.
The indies on here are 100% legit and probably reading this. Book one of them; you will absolutely have a wonderful time, especially (particularly) as a newbie.

Oh I do get the sarcasm, no worries
Still no real answer to my qestion but I get it, the forum is not for noobs like me and you don't want to waste your time (I wouldn't either!)
I assumed the indies here are legit, sure. As well as the reviews.
I just want to understand when something like y-shirt apparently is legit. Then 1) why are there almost no reviews about the girls there? I thought because they might be fake? Or is it just, because noone uses those services. And 2) Many girls on y-shirt and similar have "their" Twitter profiles and offer services to foreigners with English. So are those bait n switch operations even the "agency" itself is legit. I just want to understand. I'm not saying "oooh, here I noob come and know better" or whatever it is people here seem to read

 

[Kotanji]

Oh, sorry. We're slacking this weekend.

Try again next week, we'll do our best to break out some pitchforks and torches.

But seriously - you've clearly at least TRIED to do your own reading before asking. And we appreciate it.



AFAIK you're the first one to ask that question.

There are some shops where this is standard attire, but for most it would be an option.

Thank you!
And ok, I'll try next week. Oh wait, that was sarcasm

 

[Sudsy]

1) why are there almost no reviews about the girls there?

There are actually numerous reviews of various girls from y-shirts. Try the search bar, upper right corner on PC, or top of the screen on mobile. Kaori is just the must popular - by a long shot - because she enthusiastically accepts foreign customers, and encourages her colleagues to do so as well.

2) Many girls on y-shirt and similar have "their" Twitter profiles and offer services to foreigners with English. So are those bait n switch operations even the "agency" itself is legit.

You can always check for reviews of other girls from a shop. It will become rapidly apparent if the shop is the kind of place that engages in bait and switch (more often heavy photoshopping, locally referred to as panemaji (panel magic, as most shops used to keep a panel with all the girls' photos up).

 

[Danbo]

I assumed the indies here are legit, sure. As well as the reviews.
I just want to understand when something like y-shirt apparently is legit. Then 1) why are there almost no reviews about the girls there? I thought because they might be fake? Or is it just, because noone uses those services. And 2) Many girls on y-shirt and similar have "their" Twitter profiles and offer services to foreigners with English. So are those bait n switch operations even the "agency" itself is legit. I just want to understand. I'm not saying "oooh, here I noob come and know better" or whatever it is people here seem to read

Yeah, the indies are all legit because not everyone is allowed to advertise on this forum. The admin of the forum is quite strict with verification to avoid any untrustworthy people using this forum for advertisement.

When it comes to reviews in general, you can always use the search bar to see if a specific girl or shop was reviewed before. This is a small community, so of course only a tiny small fraction of girls working has reviews. Best way to expand that is to visit a shop and write a review yourself.

Of course there are also a few girls available that speak a little English or are close to fluent. Nobody said that this is impossible, but the number of girls is very low.

There are not only positive reviews available, if people were disappointed or overcharged they are also free to report about this.

 

[Kuromi]

And you are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. Wait until you try one of the services and start exploring on your own, you will shit bricks with the amount of options that are available (if you are willing to put the effort to do research, that is)

 

[kirayamato]

Oh I do get the sarcasm, no worries
Still no real answer to my qestion but I get it, the forum is not for noobs like me and you don't want to waste your time (I wouldn't either!)
I assumed the indies here are legit, sure. As well as the reviews.
I just want to understand when something like y-shirt apparently is legit. Then 1) why are there almost no reviews about the girls there? I thought because they might be fake? Or is it just, because noone uses those services. And 2) Many girls on y-shirt and similar have "their" Twitter profiles and offer services to foreigners with English. So are those bait n switch operations even the "agency" itself is legit. I just want to understand. I'm not saying "oooh, here I noob come and know better" or whatever it is people here seem to read

have you check this? https://tokyoadultguide.com/forums/soapland-reviews.59/?prefix_id[0]=129

probably impolite of me but how old are you?

 

[kirayamato]

Of course there are also a few girls available that speak a little English or are close to fluent. Nobody said that this is impossible, but the number of girls is very low.

some even caters to women, my mind was blown when I found out.

 

[Maxblack]

.
I just want to understand when something like y-shirt apparently is legit. Then 1) why are there almost no reviews about the girls there?

Ok friend I’m going say it out loud: are you an idiot?
Mikuru, Karin, Kaoru, Chika…so many ladies at y shirts reviewed on this site. What aren’t you getting?

 

[Kotanji]

There are actually numerous reviews of various girls from y-shirts. Try the search bar, upper right corner on PC, or top of the screen on mobile. Kaori is just the must popular - by a long shot - because she enthusiastically accepts foreign customers, and encourages her colleagues to do so as well.


You can always check for reviews of other girls from a shop. It will become rapidly apparent if the shop is the kind of place that engages in bait and switch (more often heavy photoshopping, locally referred to as panemaji (panel magic, as most shops used to keep a panel with all the girls' photos up).

Thanks.
Well yeah, that's what I thought in my greenness.
When one or two reviews exists about girls from this and that establishment I would conclude that establishment is legit, therefore all profiles on that website have to be real - therefore their twitter profiles also have to be real. And so on.

What it comes down to I guess is, that I just don't get how many girls that serve English don't have reviews (I repeat myself, I know there are some) since many people are/were noobs like me that also were searching for English serving.
And then I immedietaly think they have to be fake/scam. That's all.
Still don't know how to search or find out if some specific website is real or not unfortunately.

 

[SoFreshSoClean]

It seems to me you are looking for an EXHAUSTIVE confirmed list of all reviewed and proven options. It’s a textbook case of choice paralysis.

Just go with one that checks the most boxes of yours, and don’t go in circles thinking “what if another one is better, what about this one, etc etc…” 🤷🏻‍♂️ just my 2 cents

PS: the fact that not MORE reviews exist is also because a big chunk of forum lurkers/newbies, just beg for info, then fuck off into the sunset once they busted their nut and don’t bother sharing. Which one will you be? 😇

 

[Danbo]

Thanks.
Well yeah, that's what I thought in my greenness.
When one or two reviews exists about girls from this and that establishment I would conclude that establishment is legit, therefore all profiles on that website have to be real - therefore their twitter profiles also have to be real. And so on.

What it comes down to I guess is, that I just don't get how many girls that serve English don't have reviews (I repeat myself, I know there are some) since many people are/were noobs like me that also were searching for English serving.
And then I immedietaly think they have to be fake/scam. That's all.
Still don't know how to search or find out if some specific website is real or not unfortunately.

You are overanalyzing. All businesses you find on CH are "legit". Sure photoshopping is going on and a lot of promo photos are platic as hell, just look at girl's blog and you know how the reality looks like.

If a website has no listing on CH or other big fuzoku portals probability is high that something fishy is going on.

 

[Cinnabums]

Still don't know how to search or find out if some specific website is real or not unfortunately.

How can we know you are real?
is there a way to prove it?