How does Amsterdam scene compare with Tobita Shinchi

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lhee said:
lol, I thought you knew already. At the very least, I'm convinced the man is not Asian. Real fetish vibes there. I'm surprised by all the pearl-clutchers not chastising our friend requiemmorrow for his posts. Categorically worse than the language they seemed to be extremely offended by in this thread.
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I’ve got a litany of problems. But I’m on a high horse because you can’t admit what you said is problematic.

This kind of hard-headedness is what closes doors for us in Japan. You are trying to defend an attitude that makes folks NOT want to share with you. 😂
 
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Danbo said:
I would say the biggest difference is the overall feel and the people walking around. Tobita is an old neighborhood where nobody ends up by accident, only people looking for P4P are walking around quietly.
In Amsterdam the redlight district is in the center of the city, the whole neighborhood/architecture is pretty amazing.....but you have crowds of young, partying, drunk tourists and sightseers everywhere. It is a lot more stressfull and loud.
Girls are super pretty in Tobita as well as Amsterdam......but it is what it is. Expensive and usually not very intimate.
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Agree with @Danbo on this. I went to Amsterdam recently. Also want to add that people do live in the red light district. The vibe is very different from Tobita. It is actually fun to walk around the area itself. I wouldn't expect any GFE from those girls. Also the price seems to be negotiable in Amsterdam although I did not try to negotiate. I only went in and asked one of the girls but I didn't actually play with her. Oh yeah and it smells of marijuanas everywhere.
 
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I'm being crucified by people who routinely post and behave in a far worse capacity. It just doesn't make any sense. Being called sociopath, having character questioned, and in light of requiemmorrow's objectively worse behavior, which goes unchecked made this whole discussion a Kafkaesque experience for me.

Again, people routinely use this language on this board, and I am definitely not out of line here. And I will not be lectured about basic human decency by a man who cheats on his girlfriend and likely has an asian fetish.
 
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lhee said:
You wrote" BYOL (Bring your own lady)", as if that's not objectifying women.
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No , and if you replace that with Bring your own men/partner it would still sounds alright. Actually I like the bring your own partner better , just to be inclusive.
Also notice that very comments got like from two ladies so apparently the ladies are fine with that.
 
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Id like to remind everyone that still now, we are all commenting on a forum specifically for people who like to pay for sex.
 
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So I do think that the fixation on the word wares is odd; they are in fact selling access to their bodies, which are their wares. Shops list measurements of their bodies as if we're buying clothes or something. I wouldn't assume from just this that OP goes around disrespecting women.

I also, however, think it's odd that some of the defenses have been essentially "yeah well everyone here is paying for sex." To be clear, assuming consent of both parties:

There is nothing inherently wrong with selling sex.

There is nothing inherently wrong with paying for sex.

It's a transaction. All the morality and what-not is peripheral and often influenced by various societies' shaming of recreational sex for dubious reasons.
 
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No , and if you replace that with Bring your own men/partner it would still sounds alright. Actually I like the bring your own partner better , just to be inclusive.
Also notice that very comments got like from two ladies so apparently the ladies are fine with that.
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So let me get this straight...your defense is it could have referred to men, therefore it's fine? Oh and two women liked it, so it's okay? But you didn't say partner, you said lady. By your logic, 'wares' could refer to male escorts, or just escorts in general!

The cognitive dissonance is baffling. You're literally likening women to beer you can bring along, and you're harassing me for my choice of words?
 
10 of 27 messages from OP atm is defending himself. Now make your 28th post useful to the community instead.
I suggest posting a review of a shop not yet reviewed in the forum.
 
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Unpopular Opinion By Some: I don't feel comfortable referring to human beings as objects, that includes the slang, slurs or whatever the local dialect dictates. The fact that you can't just refer to women (or men) respectfully, makes me ill. I'm fine with referring to them by their job title: Escort, Sex Worker, Dominatrix, Sugar Baby/Momma/Daddy, etc. Except in cases of role play, where the titles are agreed upon and chosen by those players... then you see things like master/slave/animal/toilet, whatever. These workers are not 'wares' that you browse in your local Nitori or Home Center. Feel free to use whatever terms you want on other sites and social media, but I would ask that you don't on this site.

Thanks & Locked.

EDIT: The OP of this thread pointed out that we should stop the use of "Shemale" --- While I'm not generally happy with the term, some of the workers in this field have elected to use this term as point for advertising because it draws out a certain of personality. We do not use 'Shemale' to address those normal Transgender persons who are not sex workers, that would be offensive. (This decision on our end has come as result of previous discussions with workers that call themselves: Ladyboys, Shemales, Traps/Crossdressers & even this new slang, Femboy.

EDIT 2: I have yet to see a provider refer to him/herself as a 'ware'.
 
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Edited the post above, I wouldn't want @lhee to feel left out. (He asked [to remove it (shemale)], I said No.)
 
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