How's Nampa going in 2023?

[MrDuBois]

You do realize that this is basic nanpa advice right? "The game" isn't about charging women on the street and harassing them

Well to be fair, the most "famous" Nampa guys on this board constantly reiterated that charging women on the street and playing the numbers game is exactly what you need to do. Of course, they didn't say anything about harassing but what you describe is not nampa, it's just as they said...normal, "organic" human interaction.

 

[Shfhntr]

Good when leaving the house long enough to actually do it - last was jogging fitness coach along the river..

Normal organic human interaction..

 

[MrDuBois]

So not nampa!

 

[CharlieSimms]

Not sure how “organic” human interaction would be defined. Maybe throwing feces at each other like monkeys? 😂 The deep fear many if not most people have to initiate a spontaneous dialogue in public with someone they don’t already know is largely a construct of modern society. Has little to do with human dna. And only gets worse as society becomes more and more virtual. Yes this a broader topic than nampa - although related. It’s about people afraid to leave their shells and what society has conditioned them to be like - and I am not excluding myself in that count for sure.

 

[MrDuBois]

Literally described it above, but yeah, monkeys.

 

[Kuromi]

Nampaing other people to go catch nesoberis together sounds pretty nice, I'm in!

Otherwise I would have to do it alone again, I love nesoberis.

 

[Combat]

playing the numbers game is exactly what you need to do. Of course, they didn't say anything about harassing but what you describe is not nampa, it's just as they said...normal, "organic" human interaction.

I'm failing to see how this is equal to "harassment" or how this makes nanpa any "lesser" of a method than any other way of meeting women. Whether you're into traditional dates, street approach, nightlife, dating apps, sugar babying, the same funnel exists for each of these activities. You have to try to maximize the quantity in some way if you want to be successful. If you're focusing on street then the more approaches you do = higher chances of success. Again I don't see how this is fundamentally different from any other way of meeting women.

It's true that in doing nanpa you will sometimes annoy people. I think some nanpa guys try to rationalize this away with some pretentious complicated "philosophy" they come up with, but I think the cold truth is that to do nanpa you have to value achieving what you want more than being a minor nuisance to a stranger for less than 1% of their day (this is exactly how sales works in any industry in fact). For every girl that is annoyed or ignores you, there's another who opens right up and is super happy that you're talking to them. I think that's the side that a lot of nanpa critics don't see.

 

[MrDuBois]

I'm failing to see where I equated it to harassment. I merely pointed out that what that person described wasn't exactly nampa. Nampa is fundamentally different from any other way of meeting women, that's all I was saying.

Not even going to bother going over the rest because it's been beaten to death. I'll just agree to disagree.

 

[asaccard]

Nampa is fundamentally different from any other way of meeting women

Why? Because it's a Japanese word?

 

[MrDuBois]

 

[didi521]

Got in the mood to check this thread after seeing a tourist in center gai yell at a gaijin nampa kid to F off.:d

But that's the issue with Tokyo nampas... He was definitely older than me but looked like a kid due the overcompensating altitude plus the long coat + bright pants that can make anyone in his 30s look like a 17yo who collects PUA books.

I'm failing to see how this is equal to "harassment" or how this makes nanpa any "lesser" of a method than any other way of meeting women.

Lesser cause it's just a really old unoriginal tactic even for Japan and the rest of the world knows it well already. You don't need to come across some nampa/PUA youtube channel to know what push/pull, neg etc means, or guess the skills of the guys who use these terms compared to what they claim. Quite ages behind the rest of the world, so no I wouldn't call them salesmen unless you mean the door-to-door vacuum salesmen from the 50's

 

[Alice]

door-to-door vacuum salesmen from the 50's

Fun fact, the door to door vacuum salesmen got laid like crazy by bored rich housewives during the bubble in Japan.
Erotic type of encounter (like from an adult movie), for the men it probably meant both money and pleasure, for the women a convenient way to have an affair, while their husband is out living it up with the hostesses anyway.

Oh to be alive in the time before smartphones when people still organically hooked up to have fun.

So I guess this is exactly the type of salesman a nampashi should aspire to be.

 

[Durg50]

Fun fact, the door to door vacuum salesmen got laid like crazy by bored rich housewives during the bubble in Japan.
Erotic type of encounter (like from an adult movie), for the men it probably meant both money and pleasure, for the women a convenient way to have an affair, while their husband is out living it up with the hostesses anyway.

Oh to be alive in the time before smartphones when people still organically hooked up to have fun.

So I guess this is exactly the type of salesman a nampashi should aspire to be.

I thought it was the laundry clothes line salesmen?
Obviously we watch different retro porn.

 

[MrDuBois]

Oh to be alive in the time before smartphones when people still organically hooked up to have fun.

Well, I mean...that time was basically just pre-Tinder, which released in 2012. So I was 20 at that time and let me tell you: I had about as much fun back then as I have now and my mental state when it came to getting laid was the same as well.

Absolutely horrendous.

 

[Alice]

laundry clothes line salesmen?

Probably both.

They were selling something, alright

 

[Fumisancho79]

My observations in 2023:

• Roppongi dead except working girls
• Shinjuku hard because flooded by foreigner tourist groups even late at night
• Shibuya is the place to be. Even HUB had 75% locals and very good ratio
• Street nampa works great in Shibuya
• You will need N3 to be consistently successful
• You will need to be able to hold a conversation and make jokes in Japanese to be consistently successful

 

[MrDuBois]

Funny how Shibuya is the place to be when I thought it's even more crowded with foreigners than Shinjuku. Especially in center gai.

 

[ThaWeeknd]

Right...



You do realize that this is basic nanpa advice right? "The game" isn't about charging women on the street and harassing them. It's about forming genuine connections with people in a way where everyone is having fun, and such that everyone feels safe and respected. You can absolutely strike up a conversation with a stranger you're interested in while acting like a normal, sane human.

I would agree that there are plenty of nasty creatures in the nanpa mix but the bad apples don't make the social activity fundamentally bad.

This discussion needs to be closed after this. This is exactly how it should be done. Be genuine and be you...unless you’re a pervert and if so, be anybody else but you.

 

[Fumisancho79]

Funny how Shibuya is the place to be when I thought it's even more crowded with foreigners than Shinjuku. Especially in center gai.

Shinjuku was insane, 11pm there were tourist groups with kids in tow or tourist groups with grandparents in basically every bar, was completely absurd. I think it’s this season but also some Tokyo guides say it’s “the #1 thing to do in Tokyo”

 

[Danbo]

Shinjuku was insane, 11pm there were tourist groups with kids in tow or tourist groups with grandparents in basically every bar, was completely absurd. I think it’s this season but also some Tokyo guides say it’s “the #1 thing to do in Tokyo”

Kabukicho was really shocking the last time I went.......never seen so many tourists on the streets and never in big groups before. No fun to walk around, but at least they stay in the usual places. Doesn't really affect places that are not that popular.

 

[Alice]

Funny how Shibuya is the place to be when I thought it's even more crowded with foreigners than Shinjuku. Especially in center gai.

I’ve always found Shibuya utterly disappointing. (Except for a few stores, but I’m talking about the streets in general.)
I expect it was popping in the ‘90s, but I have never had much of a good flirt, pick up or proposal there, only been chased around by some weirdos. 😂

 

[YokoMonger]

only been chased around by some weirdos.

Sorry about that. Just was trying to give you the good word about the church of the spinner.

 

[nanban]

I’ve always found Shibuya utterly disappointing. (Except for a few stores, but I’m talking about the streets in general.)
I expect it was popping in the ‘90s, but I have never had much of a good flirt, pick up or proposal there, only been chased around by some weirdos. 😂

This is interesting to me because I've always heard that Roppongi was the place to be in the 90s, and that Shibuya has slowly displaced it as the king of nightlife. Corona apparently struck the final blow in this exchange.

My observations in 2023:

• You will need N3 to be consistently successful

Oh god oh fuck

 

[YokoMonger]

Oh god oh fuck

Never took that test, but looking it up it seems more like a reading test with a small listening portion. Useless for nampa. Probably better off with self studying and paying for one on one sessions to bring your conversation up to speed.

 

[MrDuBois]

Yeah, just disregard any mentions of JLPT grades lol. There are people with N1 who know all their kanji, know how to listen to audio and answer questions on a paper but when they get to Japan, they can't speak whatsoever. I think it's just a way to say "If you have N3, you probably know X and Y so you are perhaps able to converse." but yeah, it's entirely useless most of the time for things like this.