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My usual SB date seems to have stopped responding to me lately. I'm suspecting she must have found a boyfriend over the holidays. I started looking for another companion, and went on a date in Ikebukuro. However, the date was short and perhaps she wasn't interested in me. So there I was lonely in Ikebukuro on an early afternoon..

I like longer term relationships and am tired of the impersonal nature of DH and SL (i enjoy dating and not just sex), so I figured I'd see what a deai club was like for the first time. I've been intrigued with the concept of a deai cafe, but have seen many negative reactions and have avoided trying for a long time. I don't know the differences between the well known Kiriri and Momo chain, but I thought the web commercial for Momo was a bit more odd, so I went there.

The location was easy to find and was in a convenient location next to restaurants and hotels on East side of Ikebukuro. The entrance led directly to a desk staffed with two male attendants. Almost no English was spoken by the first attendant, and the second knew some basic English. My Japanese is mediocre and is worse in unfamiliar situations (such as a first visit to a deai club). No materials were available in English. The staff needed to be sure that I understood and were patient with trying to rephrase what they were saying when I didn't understand new words. They gave me a slip of paper to write basic info about myself and led me to the observation room. It was around 4pm and there were maybe 5-6 women available and over 10 men standing around. The women had a post board with slips of paper with their information on it. You have to be able to read some Japanese, but its really straightforward. Based on what the women wrote and their appearance, men can make nominations to speak with a woman for 10 minutes in a private booth. Speed introductions and discussion of preferred date details, and a decision is made to the staff. If a date is agreed upon by both parties, then they meet outside by the elevator and the date.commences.

Costs of the service:
Costs exist for entry, nominations, and setting dates. So you might pay to go in, pay again to speak to a girl, and pay again to select. It could add up quick if bad selections are made. It also puts some risk of spending money to just chat for 10 minutes. The cost of each component varies depending on what plan/package you purchase. For example, one plan might be ala cart style and you pay each fee. .One plan allowed one free chat. There was a special for the day, so I purchased the max plan which was unlimited for the day. I wanted the full experience....

Inside they had coffee and non-alcohol drinks no extra charge. there was a separate smoking room. One single toilet was there for the men and staff. They had a variety of reading materials to help pass the time waiting. It was cramped and dimly lit. The men side were tripping over each other but mostly just ignored each other. The women side looked comfortable with couches, better lighting, and a nicer looking drink machine. The women looked fairly comfortable considering they knew they were being watched and most just fiddled with their phones.

Some women wrote that they only wanted to talk and eat, and nothing more. The men mostly seemed to ignore them and I didn't see any get nominated. I was tempted to talk to one just to get her perspective since I had the day unlimited plan, but didn't see one that I was interested in (based on writtin intro and appearance). However my first selection straight up said she just wanted a meal and didn't have time for a hotel despite what she wrote. She asked for 5000 yen to take her out to eat, and I agreed since she was teaching me the process and helping me learn anyways. I think 5000 yen was likely an average price. After the date she said we could meet in the future for hotel time and we exchanged info. I don't think I'll pursue anything further though. I chalked it up as a fun date and learning experience.

I went back for a second visit. After a short period of waiting, I made a new selection rather promptly this time. This woman straight up said that she loves alcohol, loves sex, and wanted to go out with me within the first minute in the booth. She asked for 20,000 yen which seemed reasonable. I've read on this forum that guys often go with 15,000 (ichigo), but I don't like to haggle for something like this. I thought that we would go to a bar or restaurant, but she went to the combini for drinks and snack. Back in the hotel, it was chatting and straight into foreplay. I've read that a common complaint is that some girls try to quickly fuck and leave, but this wasn't the case. We spent a couple hours together and enjoyed ourselves. Amateur material but seemingly a deai-cafe-pro. Sex and BBBJ were awesome with some obvious skills. I prep my own condoms, but I have a feeling she was down for BB. We exchanged contact info and already have a follow up date next week.

Then I went back for a third visit around 9pm.. There were only 3 women and about 5 men. As soon as a new woman entered, the guys would rush over to read the card. selections were made fast in some cases. A new woman came in that I instantly was attracted to. Two other men had jumped up to read the card first and turned away. The card was all handwritten and didn't suggest sex. Anyways, I nominated her for a chat. She said she was really hungry and wanted to go out to eat. I said that would be fine, but was also hoping to spend some adult time with her later if she was comfortable. She agreed and said we could do two dates. one for meal and one for hotel later. I was assuming this meant she was reserving the option to leave if she didn't like me. Her suggested costs seemed higher and asked for 10,000 for meal and 20,000 for hotel. I was really attracted to her and I didn't think there would be many more options later, so I agreed to the cost. We went out for sushi and back to the hotel. We hit things off well and sex was incredible. By this time, it was nearly impossible to cum so we went at it for who knows how long. It was like our own little JAV with her sweating, moaning, and convulsing. Total opposite of a maguro girl. Afterwards, we were cuddling and chatting. She said that she been at the Shinjuku location earlier in the night, and nobody wanted a meal date. She said everyone was just etch etch etch, so she switched to Ikebukuro. I didn't ask whether she actually went on other dates, since that's none of my business. However. I think she wasn't originally wanting sex. and may have been getting turned down. She said the Shinjuku location was much busier and quoted about 50 women while she was there. We exchanged contact info and likely will meet again when she is in Tokyo (she said she was from far out of town and came for a concert).

My impression of the experience is that it can be worthwhile. It takes time to wait around. Dates could be a bust. However, at least for myself, I liked this better than most of my previous escort experiences.
If anyone is on the fence and considering going, then I'd suggest trying, but don't be in a rush. Also Japanese speaking ability is a total must. I don't think Google translate type apps woild work that well.
 
Thanks for the long and very detailed review. Sounds strangly offputting but fun at the same time. Since I live close by I am kinda intrigued to just try it once for the new experience 😉

You already posted a lot of info, but I have a few more questions:

You mentioned that cost could vary depending on course and what you book.....but how much did you pay for the full plan in your case? Just to have a super rough idea.

What kind of women/girls show up at these places? What is the average age and what style of women?
Rather unimportant, but what kind of Japanese guys use places life that? The whole concept seems so 90ies I imagine older businessmen 😅
 
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Thanks for the long and very detailed review. Sounds strangly offputting but fun at the same time. Since I live close by I am kinda intrigued to just try it once for the new experience 😉

You already posted a lot of info, but I have a few more questions:

You mentioned that cost could vary depending on course and what you book.....but how much did you pay for the full plan in your case? Just to have a super rough idea.

What kind of women/girls show up at these places? What is the average age and what style of women?
Rather unimportant, but what kind of Japanese guys use places life that? The whole concept seems so 90ies I imagine older businessmen 😅


The unlimited plan was 7,000 yen. I think they said usual price was 10,000 but there was promotion going on.
Cheapest entry was 3,000 (no re-entry and ala cart)
Next was 4,000 yen and I think included one chat and maybe an arrangement fee.
I considered that I'd get charged similarly if I used an app or service anyways. I had attempted sugerbaby jp site and another (can't recall), but got charged and no success. I figured this was similar and could see the woman real time (no fake photo, photoshop, old pic,... etc)
If I hadn't been left suddenly without a date, then I probably wouldn't have attempted.

in retrospect, I'd gladly have paid the 7,000 had I known how easy it was. However it was one night... so it could've been a total bust also. Just a gamble, but I'm sure I'll do it again.

The oldest woman that night was 24. Average was usually 21-22.
There were common categories of OL, college students, freeters, listed on the cards. You'd have to speak to the women for specifics.
There were some that looked like model quality, but they typically didn't suggest adult activities in their self profile. However, considering my third date, it seems possible depending on compatability. Perhaps some do that to keep away the ones that only want sex.
Average woman was your typical girl next door type. I have my particular preferences, so.I focused my chances based on what I was looking for.

The men ranged all the way from young adults to older (possibly retired ages). Some wore business suits like salary men, and some younger folks had just jackets and sneakers. I'd say most of the men were older on average 50-60 maybe.

I was already dressed up for a date and we'll groomed,.and that may have played in my favor. In hind sight, it seemed like most of the men were just in plain everyday attire like they had just got off work. I'm sure the women know it's about the sex for most, but being groomed probably helps interactions. it's a fine line between this and escorting, but at the shop they can refuse a man. I'd rather be the preferred type of date for.them.
 
Thanks a lot for the detailed info. In general it sounds better than expected to be honest. Lol, yeah a lot about it sounds creepy but I love love new experiences. It's within walking distance so I have excuse to not try it 🤣
 
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hi thanks for the info so if I do not speak Japanese at all you think better not go?
 
hi thanks for the info so if I do not speak Japanese at all you think better not go?
Yes. If you can’t speak Japanese, you can’t communicate with the staff and the girls. Google translate is not gonna cut it. Stick to shops that cater to foreigners who can’t speak Japanese.
 
hi thanks for the info so if I do not speak Japanese at all you think better not go?

I am always puzzled by questions like that. What do you expect? This is a kind of indirect dating shop where you have to talk/negotiate with he girls what you wan to do. The shop only offers the environment to meet and TALK. Why would it be a good idea to go somewhere like that if you don't speak Japanese at all?

Go to shops that deal with foreign customers and know how to avoid misunderstandings....or if you just want to date innocently go to a an English-Japanese language meetup or something similar. I think it's not so hard to figure out what makes sense and what not.
 
hi thanks for the info so if I do not speak Japanese at all you think better not go?

Yeah, sorry to say, but going without being able to speak the language probably would be too much effort and coupled with risks. It's all direct negotiations with the girls. So not being able to speak Japanese could contribute to miscommunication, and best to avoid.

On the flip side... consider it as another motivation to learn Japanese!! Personally, I learned Japanese to meet women also.
 
So there I was in Ikebukuro with a last minute date cancellation on a Sunday..... what to do?


By now, I've been to Momo three times with better than average luck. 6 dates total and 5 were hotel time.... but two of those were very mediocre. I now understand the maguro girls comment. Major turn off, and not enjoyable. However, 3 were awesome. One could have been an idol and we had the best sex ever... but she wouldn't give me contact info since she kept the dating as a secret.


Curve ball this time as Sundays are gyaku nampa.... men stay on display and women stay behind the mirrors. The staff assure me it's fun also, so what the hey..... The men side is full and seems like every seat taken, so I have to squeeze in. About 2-5 minutes later they call my number and from there the rest of the process is the same. My date was in a rush and meeting her friends soon...Sex was robotic. I'm now thinking she picked fast to get through a date ASAP.

This reverse Nampa isnt for me. Maybe need a few beers first.
 
I am always puzzled by questions like that. What do you expect? This is a kind of indirect dating shop where you have to talk/negotiate with he girls what you wan to do. The shop only offers the environment to meet and TALK. Why would it be a good idea to go somewhere like that if you don't speak Japanese at all?

Go to shops that deal with foreign customers and know how to avoid misunderstandings....or if you just want to date innocently go to a an English-Japanese language meetup or something similar. I think it's not so hard to figure out what makes sense and what not.



Are there any cafes like this that cater to foreigners?
 
Are there any cafes like this that cater to foreigners?

I don't know of any that specifically cater to foreigners. However it seems the two popular ones will allow foreigners.

I have heard of international match making parties but have never been to any.
 
So there I was in Ikebukuro with a last minute date cancellation on a Sunday..... what to do?


By now, I've been to Momo three times with better than average luck. 6 dates total and 5 were hotel time.... but two of those were very mediocre. I now understand the maguro girls comment. Major turn off, and not enjoyable. However, 3 were awesome. One could have been an idol and we had the best sex ever... but she wouldn't give me contact info since she kept the dating as a secret.


Curve ball this time as Sundays are gyaku nampa.... men stay on display and women stay behind the mirrors. The staff assure me it's fun also, so what the hey..... The men side is full and seems like every seat taken, so I have to squeeze in. About 2-5 minutes later they call my number and from there the rest of the process is the same. My date was in a rush and meeting her friends soon...Sex was robotic. I'm now thinking she picked fast to get through a date ASAP.

This reverse Nampa isnt for me. Maybe need a few beers first.

I heard you need a form of identification to go Momo cafe in order to be a member there. I have no problems speaking at all and I was curious about trying it out on a future trip, but would it be a problem? Did you try the gyaku nanpa again? Curious if better success rate overall. Similar to what you did, I'm more interested in going for food/drinks and if we hit it off well maybe go hotel.
 
I heard you need a form of identification to go Momo cafe in order to be a member there. I have no problems speaking at all and I was curious about trying it out on a future trip, but would it be a problem? Did you try the gyaku nanpa again? Curious if better success rate overall. Similar to what you did, I'm more interested in going for food/drinks and if we hit it off well maybe go hotel.
Would identification be a problem? You can just show your passport to the staff if they do ask.
The girls won’t see it and you don’t have to use your real name on the paper they give to the girls.
 
Jan 2023

My usual SB date seems to have stopped responding to me lately. I'm suspecting she must have found a boyfriend over the holidays. I started looking for another companion, and went on a date in Ikebukuro. However, the date was short and perhaps she wasn't interested in me. So there I was lonely in Ikebukuro on an early afternoon..

I like longer term relationships and am tired of the impersonal nature of DH and SL (i enjoy dating and not just sex), so I figured I'd see what a deai club was like for the first time. I've been intrigued with the concept of a deai cafe, but have seen many negative reactions and have avoided trying for a long time. I don't know the differences between the well known Kiriri and Momo chain, but I thought the web commercial for Momo was a bit more odd, so I went there.

The location was easy to find and was in a convenient location next to restaurants and hotels on East side of Ikebukuro. The entrance led directly to a desk staffed with two male attendants. Almost no English was spoken by the first attendant, and the second knew some basic English. My Japanese is mediocre and is worse in unfamiliar situations (such as a first visit to a deai club). No materials were available in English. The staff needed to be sure that I understood and were patient with trying to rephrase what they were saying when I didn't understand new words. They gave me a slip of paper to write basic info about myself and led me to the observation room. It was around 4pm and there were maybe 5-6 women available and over 10 men standing around. The women had a post board with slips of paper with their information on it. You have to be able to read some Japanese, but its really straightforward. Based on what the women wrote and their appearance, men can make nominations to speak with a woman for 10 minutes in a private booth. Speed introductions and discussion of preferred date details, and a decision is made to the staff. If a date is agreed upon by both parties, then they meet outside by the elevator and the date.commences.

Costs of the service:
Costs exist for entry, nominations, and setting dates. So you might pay to go in, pay again to speak to a girl, and pay again to select. It could add up quick if bad selections are made. It also puts some risk of spending money to just chat for 10 minutes. The cost of each component varies depending on what plan/package you purchase. For example, one plan might be ala cart style and you pay each fee. .One plan allowed one free chat. There was a special for the day, so I purchased the max plan which was unlimited for the day. I wanted the full experience....

Inside they had coffee and non-alcohol drinks no extra charge. there was a separate smoking room. One single toilet was there for the men and staff. They had a variety of reading materials to help pass the time waiting. It was cramped and dimly lit. The men side were tripping over each other but mostly just ignored each other. The women side looked comfortable with couches, better lighting, and a nicer looking drink machine. The women looked fairly comfortable considering they knew they were being watched and most just fiddled with their phones.

Some women wrote that they only wanted to talk and eat, and nothing more. The men mostly seemed to ignore them and I didn't see any get nominated. I was tempted to talk to one just to get her perspective since I had the day unlimited plan, but didn't see one that I was interested in (based on writtin intro and appearance). However my first selection straight up said she just wanted a meal and didn't have time for a hotel despite what she wrote. She asked for 5000 yen to take her out to eat, and I agreed since she was teaching me the process and helping me learn anyways. I think 5000 yen was likely an average price. After the date she said we could meet in the future for hotel time and we exchanged info. I don't think I'll pursue anything further though. I chalked it up as a fun date and learning experience.

I went back for a second visit. After a short period of waiting, I made a new selection rather promptly this time. This woman straight up said that she loves alcohol, loves sex, and wanted to go out with me within the first minute in the booth. She asked for 20,000 yen which seemed reasonable. I've read on this forum that guys often go with 15,000 (ichigo), but I don't like to haggle for something like this. I thought that we would go to a bar or restaurant, but she went to the combini for drinks and snack. Back in the hotel, it was chatting and straight into foreplay. I've read that a common complaint is that some girls try to quickly fuck and leave, but this wasn't the case. We spent a couple hours together and enjoyed ourselves. Amateur material but seemingly a deai-cafe-pro. Sex and BBBJ were awesome with some obvious skills. I prep my own condoms, but I have a feeling she was down for BB. We exchanged contact info and already have a follow up date next week.

Then I went back for a third visit around 9pm.. There were only 3 women and about 5 men. As soon as a new woman entered, the guys would rush over to read the card. selections were made fast in some cases. A new woman came in that I instantly was attracted to. Two other men had jumped up to read the card first and turned away. The card was all handwritten and didn't suggest sex. Anyways, I nominated her for a chat. She said she was really hungry and wanted to go out to eat. I said that would be fine, but was also hoping to spend some adult time with her later if she was comfortable. She agreed and said we could do two dates. one for meal and one for hotel later. I was assuming this meant she was reserving the option to leave if she didn't like me. Her suggested costs seemed higher and asked for 10,000 for meal and 20,000 for hotel. I was really attracted to her and I didn't think there would be many more options later, so I agreed to the cost. We went out for sushi and back to the hotel. We hit things off well and sex was incredible. By this time, it was nearly impossible to cum so we went at it for who knows how long. It was like our own little JAV with her sweating, moaning, and convulsing. Total opposite of a maguro girl. Afterwards, we were cuddling and chatting. She said that she been at the Shinjuku location earlier in the night, and nobody wanted a meal date. She said everyone was just etch etch etch, so she switched to Ikebukuro. I didn't ask whether she actually went on other dates, since that's none of my business. However. I think she wasn't originally wanting sex. and may have been getting turned down. She said the Shinjuku location was much busier and quoted about 50 women while she was there. We exchanged contact info and likely will meet again when she is in Tokyo (she said she was from far out of town and came for a concert).

My impression of the experience is that it can be worthwhile. It takes time to wait around. Dates could be a bust. However, at least for myself, I liked this better than most of my previous escort experiences.
If anyone is on the fence and considering going, then I'd suggest trying, but don't be in a rush. Also Japanese speaking ability is a total must. I don't think Google translate type apps woild work that well.
Thanks a lot for this report, very interesting.
I'm really thinking about trying.
I was wondering what kind of restaurant you went to, and I assume you did not ready each time 🤣
How much did you spend in total ?
 
Thanks a lot for this report, very interesting.
I'm really thinking about trying.
I was wondering what kind of restaurant you went to, and I assume you did not ready each time 🤣
How much did you spend in total ?

I honestly don't recall whether they asked for ID, but I would have had my residence card with me. Since nothing is illegal, if they had asked, then I probably gave it to them.

I've been back a few times now. A good majority of the women there expected to be asked for sex. I phrased as adult time in a hotel, and haven't had any problems.

I think if you want sex, then don't just ask for a dinner or drink date. Ask right up front if that is ok. Frankly I also asked one if I could take her to dinner and then to a hotel. She said she didn't have enough time so just pick one... so we went off to a hotel... was kind of disappointing though since she was in a rush.

If you do go, then I'd suggest steering towards someone not in a rush and indicates more types of desired dates (dinner, drinking...etc). If you go straight for the one that only says talking about date plans then she's probably just going to proposition a quick lay for cash. I personally like dating and talking time more since it gives a chance to build actual attraction prior to sex.
 
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Would identification be a problem? You can just show your passport to the staff if they do ask.
The girls won’t see it and you don’t have to use your real name on the paper they give to the girls.

I guess just wanted to be sure if passport is ok or if they care at all that you don't live in Japan. Thanks!
 
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I honestly don't recall whether they asked for ID, but I would have had my residence card with me. Since nothing is illegal, if they had asked, then I probably gave it to them.

I've been back a few times now. A good majority of the women there expected to be asked for sex. I phrased as adult time in a hotel, and haven't had any problems.

I think if you want sex, then don't just ask for a dinner or drink date. Ask right up front if that is ok. Frankly I also asked one if I could take her to dinner and then to a hotel. She said she didn't have enough time so just pick one... so we went off to a hotel... was kind of disappointing though since she was in a rush.

If you do go, then I'd suggest steering towards someone not in a rush and indicates more types of desired dates (dinner, drinking...etc). If you go straight for the one that only says talking about date plans then she's probably just going to proposition a quick lay for cash. I personally like dating and talking time more since it gives a chance to build actual attraction prior to sex.

Good to know! I'm guessing it's decently hard to find people that have time, down to go on a date and also potentially ok with hotel after and still look pretty fine. Do you still enjoy the normal type better than the gyaku nan style? Looks like in Shinjuku Momo Cafe has 2 shops, one for each type. Sounds like if you find the right girl, it might be pretty fun.
 
Good to know! I'm guessing it's decently hard to find people that have time, down to go on a date and also potentially ok with hotel after and still look pretty fine. Do you still enjoy the normal type better than the gyaku nan style? Looks like in Shinjuku Momo Cafe has 2 shops, one for each type. Sounds like if you find the right girl, it might be pretty fun.

I did the gyaku nanpa once. Ikebukuro does it on Sundays.
Personally I didn't like it. I also kept wondering if anybody would recognize me (small chance as it is)... but its still an intrusive thought since it's less anonymous than usual.

I suppose there are benefits as whomever selects you prob is ok with your info card and looks. I had a couple selections that I turned down going further due to not being interested.. but that also makes your wait longer. One woman flat out told me that she doesn't go to the usual days because nobody will select her. she was really nice and actually gave me suggestions of what else to write on my info sheet to get more attention. I thought about taking her to dinner at least, but figured I might not be doing her any favors either since she might find someone else that was a better match later. Gyaku is not for me, but maybe you'll like it. It was worth a shot for the experience of it, but I'll likely never do it again.
 
Oh.. and it has been fun to go with the full realization that it's compensated dating. Don't expect too much. I did have a couple nice dinners. One at an Udon shop and one at Sushi. The girl I took to Sushi was fun to talk to, and we exchanged contact info although I haven't repeated a date.

One date I've seen 4 times so far and is a blast to be with. She's not a stunner but loves sex and is a blast in bed. We also have enough common interests to make conversations enjoyable.

One girl told me a compensation of 5,000 yen to go on a date is good so I use that as a rough number. I open with 20,000 yen for a full date, and usually get the offer taken up without haggling (which makes me think offering less is probably common).

It's a crapshoot regarding what you actually get..... but I've had worse experiences in SLs with deceiving profiles at much higher costs.
 
Makes sense! Might try one time of each if I can just for the experience. Did you ever try Kirari as well? I think Momo Cafe and Kirari are the most popular deai kissas in Tokyo.
 
Makes sense! Might try one time of each if I can just for the experience. Did you ever try Kirari as well? I think Momo Cafe and Kirari are the most popular deai kissas in Tokyo.

I read somewhere that Kirari is more helpful to foreigners and cheaper to register with. They also have more locations. I've been curious, but haven't checked yet. I also saw somewhere that they could have Zero women at times, so more locations might not actually be helpful either.
 
I read somewhere that Kirari is more helpful to foreigners and cheaper to register with. They also have more locations. I've been curious, but haven't checked yet. I also saw somewhere that they could have Zero women at times, so more locations might not actually be helpful either.
Thanks! Definitely will try Momo Cafe then. Even if cheaper I'd prefer not to spend a few hours potentially waiting for women to come in. There are some shops I wanted to check out in Ikebukuro and Shinjuku, so it works out perfectly in a sense too. I know you can see the girls and their profile card, but do they see your profile card too? Or do they just look at your profile card once you select to talk to one of them?
 
They are given your profile card to look at after you select them, and they get them right when they enter the booth with you.
 
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