Mongering coming full circle

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I figured that among regulars here the perception would skew a bit different than most, but you know what I mean when I say that. The idea that comes to most people's minds (not necessarily to the patrons of a place like this) of a monger, especially one in Asia, is not flattering. I'm about as close to the opposite to that as one can get is all I'm saying. In fact, I'd even be willing to bet I got started at a younger age than average, too.
So, not joking now and only addressing looks.

I have been sitting in the waiting room at Bijin Lab in Kawasaki 13 times in total, a few times alone but most times in company of other punters.

Only seen one person I would say is below awerage in looks, an obvious otaku that is very overweight and balding with long hair in ponytail, just above 40 is my guess. Not judging just a description of someones features.
 
Well that's just it. I have everything besides money going for me. I earn a good living but I had to claw my way up from the lowest rung of the economic ladder which cost a lot in and of itself. I earned about $80k a year when I was in Japan and a little over six figures now. Trust me when I say this is not your grandfather's six figures. When I hear about the things women want their men to buy them I just shrivel up on the inside and remember the cost:benefit analysis of mongering.

On the other hand, I have always wanted a fulfilling relationship with a woman and mongering does kind of run counter to that. Life circumstances sorta forced me into it for awhile. Some good experiences and memories were to be had for sure, but I don't want this to be forever. I had some pretty good relationships even while I was living over there, but again, things rarely aligned in a way to allow for them to grow. Maybe they weren't going to be good relationships for much longer, but I can definitely attest to women in Japan being on average more attractive and intelligent than at least their American counterparts, which to me is encouraging enough to make me want to move back ASAP.
 
At least in Japan, the only competition in p4p is in your head. That's why there's a schedule you reserve if you want the quality and walk-ins are chancing the landmines. The main risk to us are the assholes that ruin it for the rest of us. There's no one that has a gilded dick that sprays zero-calorie vanilla flavored god nectar melting ladies into puddles of orgasmic pussy juice that'll turn providers off to all other men afterwards.
 
I am none of these things: tall, handsome, young, charismatic…
But I am most definitely rich.
And the best part about p4p is I am a considerate gentleman with very easy to please needs. My popularity with the ladies is correlated directly with my ability to orgasm quickly, fall asleep anywhere, and the looseness of my purse strings.
Fell in love with a working lady and it was all the fiasco one could ever hope for. Never again!
 
At least in Japan, the only competition in p4p is in your head. That's why there's a schedule you reserve if you want the quality and walk-ins are chancing the landmines. The main risk to us are the assholes that ruin it for the rest of us. There's no one that has a gilded dick that sprays zero-calorie vanilla flavored god nectar melting ladies into puddles of orgasmic pussy juice that'll turn providers off to all other men afterwards.
Sure there is. Fortunately he's turned his attention to Tobita Shinchi, and is leaving the Tokyo scene to us lesser mortals.
 

I think this problem is mostly in your head. Of course experiences will vary a bit but this boils down to many factors.... Like in real life it is no use to imagine who is better off than you, just enjoy your life. People always compare themselves to feel worse, never objectively.
Secondly your friend will most likely emphasize his great stories and be quiet about the shitty ones, like everyone else. This probably also leads to a distortion 😉
 
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I think this problem is mostly in your head. Of course experiences will vary a bit but this boils down to many factors.... Like in real life it is no use to imagine who is better off than you, just enjoy your life. People always compare themselves to feel worse, never objectively.
Secondly your friend will most likely emphasize his great stories and be quiet about the shitty ones, like everyone else. This probably also leads to a distortion 😉
100% this. It’s a bit like when you have a buddy who’s deep into crypto and tells you about having made 50,000x on some shitcoin. He never tells you about the other 99 times when he lost money. Resist the fomo ✊
 
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Without going into too much detail, I had valid reasons for not wanting to pursue things further with her until I chose to. It helps that she's out of the business now (of course I have no doubt she's still having sex, as am I) and I'm in a very different place in life myself. We've talked a few times since and we're still on friendly terms if nothing else. I also learned everything I know about her directly from her, so if I'm a stalker, I'm a pretty shitty one.

The point of describing myself as being tall good looking etc was not to toot my own horn. The point was to illustrate that I'm not what often comes to mind when people think of mongers. To illustrate that there's zero chance of this being a purely transactional (in the gold digging sense) relationship. All of those things I said about myself are true, but as I've known my entire life, they're not a ticket to easy or fulfilling relationships. I had to put in some effort to become good with women due to my upbringing and have been mostly disappointed with the fruits of that labor, especially here in the good ol' US of A. So pardon me for being frustrated when the incels think I live life on easy mode while the women I do attract see me as an easy lay at best or a future ex husband at worst.

I had something of an obsession over her, sure, but is that really a problem? She came in my life at exactly the right time for that to happen and leave a lasting impact. There's always been other romantic interests in my life since then. Hell, I was on and off with another woman when I made the decision to visit her (this was during a decidedly off period). So, needless to say, your assumptions are not as true as you believe them to be.

As you can hopefully tell, the initial frustration has long worn off and I'm able to see things more clearly now. I knew it wasn't the end of the world then, though I couldn't help but feel that I ended that trip with more questions than answers. Despite wanting to take things in stride going in to the visit, I wasn't really in the headspace for it due to how emotionally invested I was in the outcome. That was a recipe for failure and I knew it, but I simply didn't see any other way out of it.

The good news is as stated before, we still keep in touch and amicably at that. Maybe this was a necessary thing for both of us. I'm no longer emotionally invested in where things go from here and she has the peace of mind that I'm not trying to use her. I actually do enjoy her company and appreciate her better personality traits. I didn't decide to rape her in a country where the cops show up in a week. We enjoyed a handful of good moments in a short amount of time. And, not for nothing, but if either of us is on the autism spectrum, it's definitely her. She managed to stare at a progress bar on her computer for a solid half hour at least. I'd rather blow my brains out, personally.


From an outside perspective based on what you wrote, I think you might be holding onto some baggage. No offense intended here, and just trying to give you a possible insight.

1) You two made a plan to meet
2) You made your move
3) She turned you down
4) You were upset because you got rejected and expected sex due to experiences in the past (that's the baggage)
5) In your mind you've decided something is wrong with her and SWs in general since you think yourself superior to other men (and thus her rejecting you must mean something is wrong with her).

She seems to have let go of her previous life as a SW since you say she has someone else in her life that she has sex with. So maybe You haven't let go of her past (with the expectation of.sex), and that's counter to your belief that you'd like to just be friends. I think you may be still hung up to be frank.

I'd say do some deep soul searching of what you really wanted from her (sex vs friendship), learn a bit more about what you need from a woman, then move on from a better headspace.
 
Something I've come to accept is that many women look for a man they can "fix" and/or manipulate. As much as it sounds great to get with a man who fits the 6/6/6 rule, in reality it ends up being a stark reflection of her own self worth and she ends up ditching him. I've had women straight up admit this to me, even. If I'm not physically intimidating then with my presence, I'm mentally intimidating them by not being a junkie, making good money, and knowing what I want out of life.

You'd think it wouldn't be so hard to find a decent woman with my stats, but the truth of the matter is that women's stated preferences rarely match their revealed preferences. Additionally, I just really don't have time for their petty bullshit. Even the women I've met who are fairly intelligent (one had a verified childhood IQ of 140) simply cannot admit that they do not play the same game as men in virtually any arena. They insist on being both more of a woman and more of a man than me, which is if nothing else, a sign of deep rooted insecurity about being neither. The reality of our age is that most families will require both parents earning money, but women seem to have internalized this in possibly the most self sabotaging way imaginable.
You know this makes you sound like a cunt, right?

Have you tried not acting like a cunt? It may help.
 
Even the women I've met who are fairly intelligent (one had a verified childhood IQ of 140)
Didn't notice this back then, but ummm...a verified IQ of 140 means that this person scores at the 98.7th percentile in all subjects BETTER than other people in their age group. Based on your writing style and demeanor, I am going to say that this woman is drastically more intelligent than you or me and does not deserve any criticism peons like us would have to give her.
 
From an outside perspective based on what you wrote, I think you might be holding onto some baggage. No offense intended here, and just trying to give you a possible insight.

1) You two made a plan to meet
2) You made your move
3) She turned you down
4) You were upset because you got rejected and expected sex due to experiences in the past (that's the baggage)
5) In your mind you've decided something is wrong with her and SWs in general since you think yourself superior to other men (and thus her rejecting you must mean something is wrong with her).

She seems to have let go of her previous life as a SW since you say she has someone else in her life that she has sex with. So maybe You haven't let go of her past (with the expectation of.sex), and that's counter to your belief that you'd like to just be friends. I think you may be still hung up to be frank.

I'd say do some deep soul searching of what you really wanted from her (sex vs friendship), learn a bit more about what you need from a woman, then move on from a better headspace.

I legitimately wasn't expecting sex right off the bat, that's not really the issue. It was more a lack of communication on both of our parts that led to me expecting more expressed romantic interest. Not to throw shade because she has some genuinely great qualities, but she is not without some baggage of her own. To be frank, I think her time in the business had something to do with it. Maybe not all women come out the other end like this, but I'm willing to bet more than a few do. I'm also not sure if she's entirely out of the business either, because I caught her in a few lies I haven't mentioned while I was there.

Putting that aside, would you say a woman having a man fly out to see her with no romantic intent on her part is normal behavior? I see a lot of people placing blame on me (some is deserved to be sure), but does she not have a role in this as well?
 
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Didn't notice this back then, but ummm...a verified IQ of 140 means that this person scores at the 98.7th percentile in all subjects BETTER than other people in their age group. Based on your writing style and demeanor, I am going to say that this woman is drastically more intelligent than you or me and does not deserve any criticism peons like us would have to give her.

Ah yes, because the way I post on an essentially anonymous forum for literal whore mongers is indicative of my aptitude elsewhere.

For what it's worth, we agreed on a great deal of things and got along pretty well until we got to the discussion of starting a family. I've also taken an IQ test and scored within the same SD, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
You know this makes you sound like a cunt, right?

Have you tried not acting like a cunt? It may help.
I was obviously angry when I wrote this, but there are nuggets of truth in it regardless. There's even studies on this if you care to read up on it.
 
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The whole point of me bringing that up was to say that IQ isn't everything. Even the smartest woman I've ever met doesn't want to admit that men and women in modern society are born into totally different social positions because it's inconvenient to acknowledge.

Look, I like this place. Really, I do. I'm glad it exists. But let's not act like it's more than what it is.
 
I'm not gonna say I agree with everything he lays out there, but I have had escorts tell me the distinct differences in behavior when it comes to how much people are willing to pay based on age group. Every one of them has said that older men tend to run a harder bargain while younger men are happy paying up. Take from that what you will.
 
I'm not gonna say I agree with everything he lays out there, but I have had escorts tell me the distinct differences in behavior when it comes to how much people are willing to pay based on age group. Every one of them has said that older men tend to run a harder bargain while younger men are happy paying up. Take from that what you will.
Do you know these escorts personally? Or are they telling you these things whilst meeting professionally?
 
Column A and column B. The ones I don't know personally are usually telling me this after they fleece me, not like they have anything to gain from lying there.
 
Well you don't have to believe me, but that's what I've heard. It kinda makes sense to me, but you could make a good argument for the opposite, too.
 
I've also taken an IQ test and scored within the same SD, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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The whole point of me bringing that up was to say that IQ isn't everything.
Actually, since you proudly established that you are smarter than 98.7% people, have Aryan beauty, and STILL can’t get a fucking date leads me to believe that no…IQ must actually mean something. 🫣
 
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