Private Meeting Question
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Getting someone's LINE doesn't mean much, you're leaving out a lot of details.
...is it safe? You have to make that call depending on what she's offering or what she's really after.
Really, you need to ask her what she's after? ....and what you're looking for, which is what exactly?
You could have just gotten her LINE so she can have you come back as a repeat client and nothing more.
Sorry about that! You’re right, forgot to leave more details. Basically said she was open to seeing me outside from the shinchi as long as it wasn’t near the place. She mentioned grabbing a bite but I don’t know if it meant just that or what exactly. But ya, I should ask her directly. Just was looking if anyone had any experience and insight with a similar situation, but thanks!
getting personal contact info is one of those things that are supposedly not allowed at many shops...... but is widely done.
makes sense as shops don't want any drama outside of business. In my personal experience, i primarily use contact info to help schedule future sessions.
I have "dated" escorts in the past, and the expectations are unque for each. I've gone all the way from platonic friends and up to sugar dating. I've read forums about dating escorts and one common pet peeve are too many people expecting free sex from meet ups. Too much time wasted and drama. If you've got a separate life, then it's frankly easier to just continue with traditional encounters inside the shops. Almost no drama.
makes sense as shops don't want any drama outside of business. In my personal experience, i primarily use contact info to help schedule future sessions.
I have "dated" escorts in the past, and the expectations are unque for each. I've gone all the way from platonic friends and up to sugar dating. I've read forums about dating escorts and one common pet peeve are too many people expecting free sex from meet ups. Too much time wasted and drama. If you've got a separate life, then it's frankly easier to just continue with traditional encounters inside the shops. Almost no drama.
Message her for a few days, see if she becomes insistent on something or has other weird behavior.
Might be she wants the (platonic ) experience of going out with a gaijin or other legit activities.
Or she wants to try to milk you.
One aspect of Japanese is that very often there is an objective (social, monetary, etc.). Once the objective is reached no more interest in continuing to meet, message and the like.
Nothing wrong in general (she wants to show the catch?) Or maybe just wants a breath of fresh air.
Thank you so much! Ya I’m still trying get a feel off the conversation. She mentioned getting dinner which I’m totally down for. Just don’t know what happens after ya know. I’ll be real me being naive I thought this was like a go to hotel privately and she pockets the cash type of situation. Which I’m not opposed to it at all, obviously. I want to be blunt and ask things straight up, but also don’t want to be rude.
Don't ask straight
If I were you I would do (and expect) this : just like going out with friends, dinner, not too much alcohol, get cozy. Don't expect sex (free or otherwise ) and expect her to steer things. Do not act overtly sexual, just a date.
If you see a push in any direction, follow the lead and see where it goes.
Careful here.
Don't go to her house unless totally sure of where you are and that situation is safe. Careful to where you go , if there is a push in a particular place (see scams, warnings page)
You're in the realm of figuring it out. Best thing to do is to figure out where you two are in regards to each other, and if you enjoy hanging out together.
If she's thinking papa-katsu then she might want compensation for platonic dates also but really depends on the person's previous experiences.
Even SBs that I sleep with have things like other schedules and periods.. so dates aren't always sex either. so even if first date doesn't end in sex, then don't lose hope.
Good Luck!!!
Personally, sugar dating is my jam. love it better than any shop.
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I think it’s 99% likely she’s happy to see you outside the shop for sexy times and she gets ALL the money as opposed to giving the shop a cut.
I think it’s 1% likely she sees you as a potential boyfriend.
You are not the ONLY guy she has ever offered this too but likely you’re in a select minority so don’t be a dick.
Ask her / offer her:
“let’s meet at xyz love hotel for 2 hours of bathing and adult time, then let’s eat at abc and call it a night. Is 30,000 yen enough to cover your time and travel expenses?
Or if you actually want to see if I’m worthy boyfriend material, let’s skip the money and have a coffee first before we go to a love hotel! 😆
Can’t wait to see you!”
If she replies “coffee” congrats!
I think it’s 1% likely she sees you as a potential boyfriend.
You are not the ONLY guy she has ever offered this too but likely you’re in a select minority so don’t be a dick.
Ask her / offer her:
“let’s meet at xyz love hotel for 2 hours of bathing and adult time, then let’s eat at abc and call it a night. Is 30,000 yen enough to cover your time and travel expenses?
Or if you actually want to see if I’m worthy boyfriend material, let’s skip the money and have a coffee first before we go to a love hotel! 😆
Can’t wait to see you!”
If she replies “coffee” congrats!
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To each of his own but I would never ask directly and if I did I would be happy her picking the first option and would run if she answered coffee.
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Well no. They are human beings and at some level they crave affection, attention, respect, friendship, and love just like everyone else…just likely not from the gents who pay them for sexy times.
End of the day, a job is a job.... and who doesn't go to their job and expect money??
ok... volunteers maybe?? but that happens also if people get some kind of happiness or satisfaction. Thats totally possible with providers also... just on a more selective basis.
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Maybe from you, but these girls really want my dick inside them because I am the biggest and bestest lover they have ever had. They have told me themselves.
I have one that I consider a friend but I never see her outside of her work. We actually share personal social networking (her idea, not mine) which while a little risky of being outed, she is also risking being outed in her social circle. I told her most Japanese girlfriends and wives have a don't-ask-don't-tell attitude towards fuzoku and they don't want to know. They will cut your balls off if they find out you have feelings for them, hence I do not see her except for when I pay. I discuss this topic with her frequently and she gets it and agrees that many of her customers talk about this topic with her. I actually ran into her once in Shibuya near the station when she was with a friend. We have a cover story as being ex-co-workers at a previous company. She introduced me to her friend who has no idea what her real job is. Later, during a session I asked her if it was OK and she laughed and said it was cool and thanked me for not blowing her cover, as if I had any interest in doing something like that. Our sessions are very friendly and GFE in many ways but it ends when my time is up. She is a true professional, she has her life and career and I have my own life and career. She has a good clientele and is always booked so I know she is making a decent living. She is older like me and I don't think she would ever become a home wrecker. I've never given her anything but the service fees and small snacks, nothing of significant value.
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Not true, some of us also expect presents.
LOL!!!! hold up a sec.... so you the foreigner needed to explain how you think most women from her country think? .. in an area that she deals with as a job?
I'm thinking she's humoring you
Are you questioning the "don't ask don't tell" part of it? If so, you're not familiar with how it works here.
I just find it funny since it is so widely known, but that You had to explain it to the provider who would know better like its a revelation.
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Agree, I'm pretty sure the girl is well aware of the social norms around this topic.
Anyway, it might help to know OP's age relative to the girl. If she's 23 and you're 58, obese and bald, I think we can steer this ship in the right direction with a high chance of success for anticipating the outcome. If you're 26, fit, good looking and have dong for days, well, then maybe she actually likes you.
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Homer69 said that they are both not young, so maybe she likes him enough to share a part of private infos.
I am in a similar situation and in the past a couple of providers made a pass at me, so I understand.
Usually it's that non-Japanese are a bit of fresh air compared to usual customers and for non-cosmopolitan (non-Tokyo) girls much interesting.
My Own Private Gaijin 😂
It works both ways...
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It is widely known however it is not ubiquitous, especially for foreigners. They know western wives and girlfriends are almost always intolerant of any fuzoku and they hate it and feel threatened by it. Not every Japanese female feels the opposite, either. One co-worker's Japanese wife hates it and told him if she ever caught him going he would have serious hell to pay.
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No, the age portion of my reply was not directed to Homer at all, it was clearly directed to OP:
I don't care how old Homer or his anecdotal example are. I am talking about the OP here who created this thread - I want to know his age relative to the girl he started the thread about. Don't confuse that with the part of my reply saying that Homer need not educate a SW on Japanese social norms around cheating. Those are two different topics, clearly parsed out separately in my reply in post #20. Perhaps scroll up and read it again.
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