Providers Using Lube

User#8628 said:
Tastes like nothing to me unless it's flavored?
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Same here, which is why I don't understand this objection:

RandomTokyoGuy said:
3. Somewhat related to #2 it reduces flexibility. At least I like to kiss down there a lot at various stages. Once you put lube there you have to finish the act and clean the mess, before you can go down there again.
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It is not like the lube is poisonous or has a foul taste or anything...so why does it have to be cleaned away before more oral action?

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RandomTokyoGuy said:
1. It detracts from GFE... I can't remember to ever have used it with a gf... We either spent the time required or if she would get in the right mood for whatever reason went with other forms of intimacy that go without penetration
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Use of lube by np4p couples is quite common I'm pretty sure.

However, if you have never used/encountered it except in p4p, I can see why it would be a bit off-putting. Maybe it would be like going to a movie which showed the actors and actresses having their make-up applied or in which you could see the camera man filming and the sound crew working. It wouldn't tell you any thing you didn't already know, but it would strongly remind you that the scenes in the movie were all fake/pretend and thus interfere with your "suspension of disbelief" and enjoyment of the entertainment.

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Wwanderer said:
Same here, which is why I don't understand this objection:



It is not like the lube is poisonous or has a foul taste or anything...so why does it have to be cleaned away before more oral action?

-Ww
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MissInsomnia said:
I personally dislike the taste of lube, flavored or not.. but fortunately, it's not necessary for BJ. It's good for HJ and intercourse, though, and sometimes a good substitute for massage oil.
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Seems I'm not the only one who doesn't like the taste. Also the texture is usually not to my liking and then I may prefer the natural taste. It's a personal preference, so there is no need to understand / share it. I'm sure we would easily find food about which we disagree too.
I also never said that it was wrong if couples used it. Everyone to their liking.

Yuma said:
Hehe either whip cream or chocolate spray :love:
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Don't think you will have trouble finding someone for that, but I doubt that you wanted to restrict the application to just one specific area. There are more which seem to be made to get "cleaned up";)
 
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From a practical standpoint it doesnt matter much to me. I have had someone do it both within the same session. If they are trying to make the event work it is all good.

Of course not all things sex are practical. Female lubrication is one indication of sexual arousal. Knowing she needs assistance does alter the event. I suppose a woman could feel the same way if the man can not get hard. Perhaps he is just tired etc, but there might be some mental thought that he doesnt find me attractive or doesnt like my technique.

I expect most people want the most affirmation they can get even if they rationally are ok with deviations. That would be my position.
 
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Personally always insisted on using lube for safety reasons because I understand how my body reacts to condoms. After a while it will actually cause my body to dry up. Most of my clients have not had an issue with using lube, and they even find it exciting to use lube because they can go much faster and deeper.

I don't think vaginal dryness/wetness has much to do with the level of arousal. Yes, there are definitely correlations, but it's definitely not the defining factor.

As for whether it "spoils the mood".... seriously? I think taking a few seconds to use some lube isn't disruptive at all, compared to the possibility of a broken condom. Guys who are able to distinguish "fantasy" and reality of sex wouldn't find putting lube to be an issue at all IMO.
 
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This thread is funny as I almost always reach for lube even faster than my lady host. I find it helps most everything.. Even some gentle caressing of a clitoris is oh so much better when it's nice and slick!

I think a lot of men are quite insecure.. If their partner doesn't get wet enough, doesn't seem as into it or doesn't achieve orgasm.. Some people view it all as personal slights. I've met some women that cannot achieve orgasm unless they're doing the stimulating themselves (strong control tendencies) as well as the complete opposite and everything in between. Some of this is perpetuated by porn and pop culture: http://www.salon.com/2015/11/05/ron...business_telling_other_people_how_to_get_off/
 
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Wwanderer said:
This.

<sigh>

-Ww
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Things associated with sex and attraction are highly personal to people. There is a vulnerability when clothes come off that most experience.

Women are not different. Reject a woman and there is a good chance she will not accept it gracefully. Such has been my experience. Men are always supposed to want it, so if you reject her then you are giving mortal offense. Don't get erect or respond well to her technique and again, bad reaction.

Providers are selling a fantasy though of a GFE and passion. They are not putting on their sites "come masturbate into me while I am passionless and look bored". Something as undefined as GFE invites the brain to fill in fantasy details. At some level all mongerers are looking for some level of unreal fantasy. They just set the line differently. What sign do you need to believe there is passion or a GFE is more the issue. If that doesn't occur in the encounter then just move on. The whole scene is big YMMV territory.

There is nothing wrong with having a preference for any reason. Nor is everyone going to click. I just wouldn't recommend getting upset over anything that isn't fraud.
 
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I don't think using lube gives the impression of being bored or lazy. Although I admit that it could lead to overthinking. But then, there are forums and threads where couples talk about what type of lube is the best to use for sex. It's not a secret that many women have problems getting wet. I myself had this problem on the birth control pill. Even if I felt aroused, down there it was a dry desert. :confused:
I also agree with @Rebeccalee about the condoms. I even had a broken one in private because let's be honest... a woman can't stay wet for over an hour penetration nor can the condom stay in 'shape' with so much friction going on. ;)
 
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Rebeccalee said:
Personally always insisted on using lube for safety reasons because I understand how my body reacts to condoms. After a while it will actually cause my body to dry up. Most of my clients have not had an issue with using lube, and they even find it exciting to use lube because they can go much faster and deeper.

I don't think vaginal dryness/wetness has much to do with the level of arousal. Yes, there are definitely correlations, but it's definitely not the defining factor.

As for whether it "spoils the mood".... seriously? I think taking a few seconds to use some lube isn't disruptive at all, compared to the possibility of a broken condom. Guys who are able to distinguish "fantasy" and reality of sex wouldn't find putting lube to be an issue at all IMO.
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This is very true. Comdoms definitely dry you out in the long run and things are not so black and white that if someone is attractive a girl is soaking and if she's not into you she's dry as hell. There are definitely more factors.
 
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HentaiHakujin said:
Things associated with sex and attraction are highly personal to people. There is a vulnerability when clothes come off that most experience.

Women are not different. Reject a woman and there is a good chance she will not accept it gracefully. Such has been my experience. Men are always supposed to want it, so if you reject her then you are giving mortal offense. Don't get erect or respond well to her technique and again, bad reaction.

Providers are selling a fantasy though of a GFE and passion. They are not putting on their sites "come masturbate into me while I am passionless and look bored". Something as undefined as GFE invites the brain to fill in fantasy details. At some level all mongerers are looking for some level of unreal fantasy. They just set the line differently. What sign do you need to believe there is passion or a GFE is more the issue. If that doesn't occur in the encounter then just move on. The whole scene is big YMMV territory.

There is nothing wrong with having a preference for any reason. Nor is everyone going to click. I just wouldn't recommend getting upset over anything that isn't fraud.
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Ok if a provider wrote "come masturbate into me while I am passionless and look bored" I may actually be interested cause at least it's an unusual sales pitch and it doesn't set expectations too high. But the flip side is that (if true) it would remind me too much of my soon-to-be-ex wife.
 
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HentaiHakujin said:
They are not putting on their sites "come masturbate into me while I am passionless and look bored".
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This might be an untapped market!

HentaiHakujin said:
At some level all mongerers are looking for some level of unreal fantasy.
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OTOH when I go to a health I'm under no illusion that I paid to have my cock sucked and nothing else. For me personally engaging a provider, even GFE, is about an NSA sexual encounter. Nothing more nothing less.
 
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Anna Summer said:
I don't think using lube gives the impression of being bored or lazy. Although I admit that it could lead to overthinking. But then, there are forums and threads where couples talk about what type of lube is the best to use for sex. It's not a secret that many women have problems getting wet. I myself had this problem on the birth control pill. Even if I felt aroused, down there it was a dry desert. :confused:
I also agree with @Rebeccalee about the condoms. I even had a broken one in private because let's be honest... a woman can't stay wet for over an hour penetration nor can the condom stay in 'shape' with so much friction going on. ;)
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I personally find that lube makes it more exciting! For so many reasons...... So many clients have commented that I start to get a bit wilder and more passionate post-lube! (*´∀`*)
 
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HentaiHakujin said:
Well, I have never seen anyone advertise a W(ife)E(xperience).
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Or a Husband Experience for that matter. But wait... Maybe thats the real market opportunity (for men). We guys want GFE but given how many women (especially in this country) are desperate to "put a ring on it" maybe I could propose the Husband Experience for a fee. And then waste all the money earnt on GFEs. Theres something here.
 
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Yuma said:
I use natural coconuts oil :love: Still searching for playmate who is happy with cleaning up my whip creamed body. Oops!
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