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Whats the difference s-class and e-class? I guess they must both be well known?

s-class are the top which they grade them like recent uncensored HD-leaked 旬果,鈴村.
E-class are those very popular one like aik*, ao*.
Some names are actually there in the class.
 
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Someone 141hk forum just update JAV price range, seem like price down quite a bit.
top S-CLASS 1-2mil ONLY.(was 3-4mil range before) - Old Tree Mao Shan Wang grade
E-CLASS 640k-1mil
C-class 320k+640k
A-clas 160k-320k

Note: not for peasant, for sour grape only.

Why does this post reminds me of my Mercedes salesman?

Also... Mao shan Wang? Isnt that some kind of smelly fruit famous is Singapore? Cant see how it relates....
 
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A-clas 160k-320k

I assume this is yen and if this is costs for a shoot it is valid, if it is to see them for a session the cost it is way off.

A bunch of AV stars work in Soap Lands or Fuzoku and only command small premiums nowhere near the above prices...
 
I had quite a number of JAV, but if really talking about JAV stars like rio, rola is way beyound i can afford.
what you find JAV in places like tora delivery health, girls at diamond tag price are 'to be discuss', and full sex is 'subjected' to the willingness of the JAV, especially if you are foreigner is either a NO or price sky high, like i said, not for peasants.

Also, even gold tiger tag, full sex not on the table menu(at least not with the standard price) and some may even NO to foreigners call even on the table menu.
but this is on the market, but off the market....... you need a connection.
Top jav don't do on the market(in Soap Lands or Fuzoku) because they don't want to spoil their market(values), but with a connection and premium price..., and what is connection.....money.
 
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A-clas 160k-320k

I assume this is yen and if this is costs for a shoot it is valid, if it is to see them for a session the cost it is way off.

A bunch of AV stars work in Soap Lands or Fuzoku and only command small premiums nowhere near the above prices...

There is a big difference between women who have been in japanese porn and ‘JAV stars’ yes soaplands have a lot of the former, not many of the latter.

If you are a current JAV star you will have a lot of money, you wont be sitting around in a run-down brothel in yoshiwara waiting for someone to show up and have a go on you for 70k for 2 hours, of which you will take home maybe half.
 
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Why does this post reminds me of my Mercedes salesman?

Also... Mao shan Wang? Isnt that some kind of smelly fruit famous is Singapore? Cant see how it relates....

Funny enough, the prices for 10-year old Mercs in Japan are similar. You pay a fortune later in shaken and taxes though
 
There is a big difference between women who have been in japanese porn and ‘JAV stars’ yes soaplands have a lot of the former, not many of the latter.

If you are a current JAV star you will have a lot of money, you wont be sitting around in a run-down brothel in yoshiwara waiting for someone to show up and have a go on you for 70k for 2 hours, of which you will take home maybe half.
Its true. Only a hand full make it to being the most famous and in demand stars and they will get offers from rich men that will be way past what other girls get for a movie shoot.

I don’t particularly envy them though.
Every guy they pass on the street knows their naked body and O face.
I rather keep that between two people.
 
There is a big difference between women who have been in japanese porn and ‘JAV stars’ yes soaplands have a lot of the former, not many of the latter.

If you are a current JAV star you will have a lot of money, you wont be sitting around in a run-down brothel in yoshiwara waiting for someone to show up and have a go on you for 70k for 2 hours, of which you will take home maybe half.

not really that bad lah, while waiting still can surf TAG ,haha
 
There is a big difference between women who have been in japanese porn and ‘JAV stars’ yes soaplands have a lot of the former, not many of the latter.

If you are a current JAV star you will have a lot of money, you wont be sitting around in a run-down brothel in yoshiwara waiting for someone to show up and have a go on you for 70k for 2 hours, of which you will take home maybe half.

We are way off the subject of this initial post but I think this goes down to what constitutes a JAV star

We are talking about A class, not your household AV names...

Yuna Himekawa reviews have been listed here, she works in Yoshiwara, she also performs in a hella lot of videos

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/姫川ゆうな
 
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We are way off the subject of this initial post but I think this goes down to what constitutes a JAV star

We are talking about A class, not your household AV names...

Yuna Himekawa reviews have been listed here, she works in Yoshiwara, she also performs in a hella lot of videos

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/姫川ゆうな

i have been trying to have all the JAV ,well known(at least i have known, not those shop claim to be and without the real artist name), as you are seem, https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/jav-at-soapland-shops-information-feedback.21699/.
If you talk about A-class and not S-class, there are indeed a few and only handful but not really many in yoshiwara, if lucky pay about 75k as compare to A-class.
I have been trying to have all those 75k in yoshiwara, and they are still only fews and still some don't tak foreigners.
姫川ゆうな i agree belong to A-class, like other https://gogoav.net/sorpland/12259/ 黒木麻衣,
星井笑 they don't take foeriners.


they are only a few, if can really have them , i can say is a very, very good value for money,lucky but is really by chances, cause a lot of the few don't take foreigners.
if talk about JAV fall into A-class or close to, in yoshiware , i would think Kana,mio tokyo rose,Aya misaki tokyo rose,sera Makeup,Risa- tokyo rose,sora hisyo,kirari tokyo rose,rena tokyo rose
AINIA,, AMIRU tokyo rose (they are not my type)can fall into A-Class, but quality wise i think is really can't compare to them
they are good value for the price, though some really can't perform or poor services.
A class they are slightly higher ,2-3 times the price, they take foerigers, and they are those currently new girls on the block, pretty but just new comers, take times and waiting, may potential to become popular or star, if they can make it.
And A-class imortantly, they take foreigners, though the middle man, which is the connection where he make money.
 
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i have been trying to have all the JAV ,well known(at least i have known, not those shop claim to be and without the real artist name), as you are seem, https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/jav-at-soapland-shops-information-feedback.21699/.
If you talk about A-class and not S-class, there are indeed a few and only handful but not really many in yoshiwara, if lucky pay about 75k as compare to A-class.
I have been trying to have all those 75k in yoshiwara, and they are still only fews and still some don't tak foreigners.
姫川ゆうな i agree belong to A-class, like other https://gogoav.net/sorpland/12259/ 黒木麻衣,
星井笑 they don't take foeriners.


they are only a few, if can really have them , i can say is a very, very good value for money,lucky but is really by chances, cause a lot of the few don't take foreigners.
if talk about JAV fall into A-class or close to, in yoshiware , i would think Kana,mio tokyo rose,Aya misaki tokyo rose,sera Makeup,Risa- tokyo rose,sora hisyo,kirari tokyo rose,rena tokyo rose
AINIA,, AMIRU tokyo rose (they are not my type)can fall into A-Class, but quality wise i think is really can't compare to them
they are good value for the price, though some really can't perform or poor services.
A class they are slightly higher ,2-3 times the price, they take foerigers, and they are those currently new girls on the block, pretty but just new comers, take times and waiting, may potential to become popular or star, if they can make it.
And A-class imortantly, they take foreigners, though the middle man, which is the connection where he make money.

Alright it sounds like you know your stuff,


Economic Moral of story: don't be stupid, You wouldn't give money to someone in the street telling you they are selling Apple stock for 100 dollars a share, you wouldn't give them money
In the same way, if someone comes up to you in the street telling you they have a av star who is free in the schedule to meet for 20k yen, Don't give them money.
 
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Alright it sounds like you know your stuff,


Economic Moral of story: don't be stupid, You wouldn't give money to someone in the street telling you they are selling Apple stock for 100 dollars a share, you wouldn't give them money
In the same way, if someone comes up to you in the street telling you they have a av star who is free in the schedule to meet for 20k yen, Don't give them money.

Sound good when the wrong brain is engaged!
 
Alright it sounds like you know your stuff,


Economic Moral of story: don't be stupid, You wouldn't give money to someone in the street telling you they are selling Apple stock for 100 dollars a share, you wouldn't give them money
In the same way, if someone comes up to you in the street telling you they have a av star who is free in the schedule to meet for 20k yen, Don't give them money.

姫川ゆうな is at grandpix, the shop is Japanese only, can't get in, 星井笑 moulin the shop said Japanese only , and also 黒木麻衣(she actually have continue supply of movies at one times) landmark the shop said Japanese only also.
http://www.hisyo.co.jp/pc/profile.php?id=nao, i heard one hong kong guy from 141hksaid he manage to get hold of her because he speak Japanese well.

There are few agents(chinese, i believe thet are hongkee) been competing among them and mainly advertise in 141hk(if you can read chinese), so far people there had tried and npt crying fouls in the forum.
the hong kongers are rich(who has the most rolls royce), and the potential markets are there.
Girls are real, as i said not for peasant, if someone just coming from sour grapes.
The girls are not within my reach, i don't find worthwhile and price very steep, be it to the girls or to the agents.
Those i can afford are only around yoshiwara area, but they are still very limited.

Price is always set by sellers and buyers, and the values are determine by the sellers and buyers, not points calling it a scams where the girls turn out to be real and it is just you are paying too high
If can't afford, just said no, very simple.

Just to add: tora health delivery, can actually find lot of quality JAV.
But on the table menu, no full sex and lot don't take foreigners.
And reasons for not taking foreigners can be they don't want to spoil their japanese markets if they found she been accepting foreigners, and the japanese are their main clients and markets.
However, they also know they are many rich foreigners that they are wiling to pay very high price more than most japanese will be willing.
So these top JAV are not found in the open market, for standard price and full sex, as they can ask for higher price through some agents doing for them.

I agree with you, stay away from touts on the street.
 
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Off topic but to play devil's advocate, not ALL touts are pure evil.

On a random drunken Friday night about 15 years ago, after missing the last train and watching all of my friends decide to walk or cab it home because they, unlike me, had to work on Saturday, I found myself lurking through the 1am streets in Umeda, Osaka. I was passing the ubiquitous row of kyabakura joints and, as I appear to most to be your average Japanese national, was being accosted by the usual assortment of 19yo touts in bitchy little cheap black suits. My usual recourse has always been to reply, in English, "Sorry, I don't speak Japanese," at which point most of them will conclude that I'm some sort of bizarre "other" Asian and recoil in disgust. It still works to this day.

On that night, however, a particularly curious tout who was working alone delivered his usual sales pitch, I delivered my usual English reply, but then he gave a curious look and asked, in a decent attempt at English, "Where are you from?" I replied that I was an American, specifically a Japanese American, which for whatever reason piqued his interest and he began walking with me. I figured he was just being a little too committed to his job so I told him, in English and in Japanese, that I was absolutely not going to his club because those establishments are a waste of money and gaijin generally won't pay 30k for three drinks while some skank with fucked up teeth sits on my lap and tells me how handsome I am...and that all I wanted was a couple of nightcap drinks so I was going to find a proper bar, most likely a gaijin bar.

To my surprise, he kept walking with me and seemed genuinely curious about the concept of a gaijin bar. I asked, "Shouldn't you be going back to work?" He replied that his shift was actually over. And semi-drunken me, weighing the risk of this guy actually being closet-queer and hoping to dip his wick in his first drunken Japanese American, decided to throw caution to the wind and asked if he wanted to check out the bar with me. His eyes light up and he excitedly asks about the bar we're going to.

There is (was?) a very famous club in Umeda that I won't name which, at the time, was probably the most infamous gaijin club in Osaka...and that's precisely where we went. On the walk over, I explained to him that this club will be full of primarily four types of people: 1) Gaijin English teacher males, looking for gaijin-loving Japanese skanks, 2) Gaijin-loving Japanese skanks, 3) Nigerians trying to score with those skanks by pretending to be rappers from NYC, and 4) Disgruntled predominantly-white English teacher females who are pissed off at Japan and life in general because they can't get any dick from their gaijin male coworkers because they're all too busy chasing group #2, but still need to blow off steam so they're at the club at 1am on a Friday night and are usually DFD (I taught him what Desperate For Dick means). He asked if those lonely female teachers are interested in Japanese guys, to which I replied that they will sleep with ANYONE, including Japanese guys, but that most Japanese males are fucking pussies who lack the balls to approach white women so it rarely happens. "Naruhodo, ne."

We rock up to the club and the tout actually pays my entrance fee. Then he buys us a round of beers and shots. I conclude that I'm either going to get raped tonight or I just found the most unlikely and awesome wingman in history.

I play my part and quickly spot a group of four gaijin females, very obviously Americans--three garden-variety slightly overweight white girls and an average-looking Asian girl who turned out to be Vietnamese-American from the east coast. As is always the case, hanging out alone, sipping on their drinks, intently watching all their male counterparts dry-humping ganguro skanks on the dance floor. And requiring absolutely no skill or finesse at all, I rock up and within a few minutes have engaged them in a lively conversation about Japan and their new teaching "careers." I start focusing on the Vietnamese-American girl, who I can tell is obviously interested (similar backgrounds, perhaps?) and signal to the tout to come over. He makes a b-line for the three white girls and, being reasonably handsome and not douchey and effeminate like most young Japanese posers, soon has all three gushing over him. Two or three beers later, which buddy tout paid for, he's got these chubs rubbing his chest (and perhaps HIS chub), I've got Miss Saigon clinging to me with my hand going lower and lower on her waist, the tout looks at me, I look at him, the understanding is clear: Tonight he'll be up to his ears in corpse-white freckled ginger pussy and I'm going to turn the nearby love hotel into Hotel Hanoi.

And then, as I'd done so many times at that point in my life, made the fateful, fatal mistake of deciding to celebrate by: "GIVE ME A ROUND OF FUCKING TEQUILA SHOTS!"

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

I woke up on the floor of my apartment the next afternoon. Tatami imprint on my face, jeans torn, bloody gash on my thigh but, happily, with all my money and belongings and my asshole didn't hurt. The only thing missing was the condom I kept in my wallet, but for all I know I could've handed it to the tout for his four-way conquest of the Midwest out or just plain stuck it up my ass.

I never saw those girls or the tout ever again. If by chance one of them is here on TAG reading this story, please shoot me a PM. I'd like to know if I ever made that first foray into Southeast Asia and if it was as exciting as I always imagined it would be.
 
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touts who are from the shops and just touting outside is still ok, especially you know they are from the shops or you have the intention to try the shop, like yoshiwara , which i would said is safe.
I normally will avoid those quiet street, hidden ,not open area especially those located upstairs cause once went upstairs alone, what ever happen can't really get help till you settle before you can come down.(especially notorious place where no police will bother).
Heard story from my client that he and his group of friends(18-22 ages) were beaten up in a night club in a quiet province, force to draw money from ATM before they were release.
Happened 25+ years ago, but don't know how true is it.
 
Jose Cuervo is possibly the most accomplished cockblocker of all history.

Very true, sadly, but on the flipside, during my early years in college, that amigo kept me from porking a couple of "girls" so unimaginably hideous that there are young guys I see at the onsen more feminine that I'd rather penetrate if my life depended on it. The answer to why I found it logical to take the ugliest girl at the party into my bedroom, when it was MY HOUSE and MY PARTY, to this day manages to elude me. Yes, 1999 was a very strange time.
 
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