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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice as to how to meet non-Japanese and preferably Western women. Bars, clubs, dating events, anything. I suppose it's going to be tough since most of them are probably looking for Japanese guys but I'd like to give it a try.
 
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Look for activities catered towards them. Meetup.com has lots of non Japanese women attending activities. Especially for those who live outside of Tokyo.
 
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice as to how to meet non-Japanese and preferably Western women. Bars, clubs, dating events, anything. I suppose it's going to be tough since most of them are probably looking for Japanese guys but I'd like to give it a try.
A lot of the foriegn women arent actually looking for Japanese men
 
okay im going to say something controversial...Due to racial stereotypes of Asian men still abundant world wide, and a lot if ingrained racist ideas of what type of men are attractive. White (sadly)asian men a lot of the time come up as last in regards to what some people think is attractive or desired. A lot of Western women will tell you they dont find asian men attractive etc. Its sad that this happens, but as kpop and east asian media get more popular it is slowly changing.

Also youll notice a lot of japanese men think this way too (western women wont find me desirable)this is why I think sometimes they never try to make a move on the girl.
 
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okay im going to say something controversial...Due to racial stereotypes of Asian men still abundant world wide, and a lot if ingrained racist ideas of what type of men are attractive. White (sadly)asian men a lot of the time come up as last in regards to what some people think is attractive or desired. A lot of Western women will tell you they dont find asian men attractive etc. Its sad that this happens, but as kpop and east asian media get more popular it is slowly changing.

Also youll notice a lot of japanese men are think this way too (the western women wont find me desirable)this is why I think sometimes they never try to make a move on the girl.

That reminds me about my ex who was Japanese. He was so surprised that I was interested in him as much as he was in me because he thought western women don't find Asian attractive. And it seems like him and his friends had quite some disappointing experiences that being friends is okay but western women would never date them.
 
okay im going to say something controversial...Due to racial stereotypes of Asian men still abundant world wide, and a lot if ingrained racist ideas of what type of men are attractive. White (sadly)asian men a lot of the time come up as last in regards to what some people think is attractive or desired. A lot of Western women will tell you they dont find asian men attractive etc. Its sad that this happens, but as kpop and east asian media get more popular it is slowly changing.

Also youll notice a lot of japanese men think this way too (western women wont find me desirable)this is why I think sometimes they never try to make a move on the girl.
While that's true, a lot of the girls who come to Japan because they like the culture are into Japanese music and movies for example, so they are used to seeing handsome Japanese men who are popular with women so they are often not biased to not wanting to date Japanese men.

As a foreigner looking for foreign women i'd advise to avoid the girls who are specifically into Japanese culture, and go for the women who moved here for work and such. Roppongi is the best place to meet these women, but many of them work in the entertainment industry, so you should be ok with that and you should be careful that they are really into you and don't try to play you.
But Roppongi seems definitely the place where women go out in the hope to meet someone who's not japanese in general.
 
The thing is Roppongi is just so depressing... Especially going there alone to try and pick up girls, I'm a bit clueless as to where to go exactly.
A bar or a club maybe? Just walk around and if you see lots of foreigners congregating somewhere, go in and give it a shot.
 
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A bar or a club maybe? Just walk around and if you see lots of foreigners congregating somewhere, go in and give it a shot.

Yeah, eventually it will come down to that. The problem I have is that all my friends already have someone so if I do that I will have to do it on my own and I don't really see myself sitting alone in those places. I suppose going after work still wearing my suit might make me look somewhat less desperate.
 
Yeah, eventually it will come down to that. The problem I have is that all my friends already have someone so if I do that I will have to do it on my own and I don't really see myself sitting alone in those places.

Tinder and an app called Happn are excellent ways to meet foreign girls in Tokyo. You'll find a ton of Europeans and more than a few from North America and AU/NZ.

Honestly it's like shooting fish in a barrel, there's so many.
 
I know, I know. Something is wrong with me. After all these years I still enjoy Motown in Roppongi. It's sleezy, honest, doesn't pretend to be anything, just fun. And you meet absolutely all kinds of people, including non-Japanese women.
 
I have met quite a few foreign women living in Japan who dated a few Japanese men after they arrived but had such negative experiences (typically due to apparent culture differences...very different expectations of a dating relationship and ideas about the roles of the man and woman) that they will no longer go out with Japanese guys. This reaction seems to be much rarer among gaijin men who come to Japan and often find dating Japanese women to be particularly appealing and satisfying.

-Ww
 
okay im going to say something controversial...Due to racial stereotypes of Asian men still abundant world wide, and a lot if ingrained racist ideas of what type of men are attractive.

I'm not sure if you are trying to say that a lot of women discriminate against Asian men on an attractiveness scale, and that's why there's a lot of single Asian men out there. Whether or not that's true, there's a much bigger factor, which is sex selection. This has happened in a lot of Asian countries, primarily China, where mothers prefer or are 'encouraged' to have sons, and those that have a second child are more likely to do so if their first child wasn't a son. This has created a noticeable gender imbalance in China and elsewhere.

Not as much of a factor in Japan, of course. In that case I think it's much more a cultural, not a racial thing.
 
I'm not sure if you are trying to say that a lot of women discriminate against Asian men on an attractiveness scale, and that's why there's a lot of single Asian men out there. Whether or not that's true, there's a much bigger factor, which is sex selection. This has happened in a lot of Asian countries, primarily China, where mothers prefer or are 'encouraged' to have sons, and those that have a second child are more likely to do so if their first child wasn't a son. This has created a noticeable gender imbalance in China and elsewhere.

Not as much of a factor in Japan, of course. In that case I think it's much more a cultural, not a racial thing.
no what I was saying is that society instills racist tropes of who you're supposed to find attractive and loves to whitewash everything. This is ingrained in a lot of peoples subconscious leading to example people saying they don't find so and so race attractive because society and media has brainwashed them to find certain races more attractive than others etc.
 
I know, I know. Something is wrong with me. After all these years I still enjoy Motown in Roppongi. It's sleezy, honest, doesn't pretend to be anything, just fun. And you meet absolutely all kinds of people, including non-Japanese women.
And the music is good!
 
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I have met quite a few foreign women living in Japan who dated a few Japanese men after they arrived but had such negative experiences (typically due to apparent culture differences...very different expectations of a dating relationship and ideas about the roles of the man and woman) that they will no longer go out with Japanese guys.
-Ww

That pretty much sums up my experiences with Japanese women so far. My first exposure to dirty films as a teenager (I'm 36 so that was before the internet) was through 70's Nikkatsu roman porno that a nearby cinema was showing in my hometown so in a way I've been conditioned to find Japanese women attractive but in recent years I've come to realize the cultural gap is probably too wide for any kind of semi-serious relationship.

This reaction seems to be much rarer among gaijin men who come to Japan and often find dating Japanese women to be particularly appealing and satisfying.

I know plenty of gaijin guys who got burned just as badly if not worse than me, and I also know plenty of other guys trapped in loveless, sexless marriages in which their wives take all the money and only leave them the bare minimum. At my workplace, when I get 手当 in addition to my normal salary, it's always in cash, even when it's something like 200,000 yens, amounts that I feel uncomfortable carrying with me. My boss explained to me that it's pretty common in Japanese companies and the reason they do it is that it's the only way a man who is married can dispose of his own money without his wife knowing it, so it seems those attitudes towards the roles of man and woman are pretty deeply ingrained. Time and time again I've met Japanese women whose sole ambition in life is to get married, stop working and let their husband support them. Well thanks but no thanks.
 
That pretty much sums up my experiences with Japanese women so far. My first exposure to dirty films as a teenager (I'm 36 so that was before the internet) was through 70's Nikkatsu roman porno that a nearby cinema was showing in my hometown so in a way I've been conditioned to find Japanese women attractive but in recent years I've come to realize the cultural gap is probably too wide for any kind of semi-serious relationship.



I know plenty of gaijin guys who got burned just as badly if not worse than me, and I also know plenty of other guys trapped in loveless, sexless marriages in which their wives take all the money and only leave them the bare minimum. At my workplace, when I get 手当 in addition to my normal salary, it's always in cash, even when it's something like 200,000 yens, amounts that I feel uncomfortable carrying with me. My boss explained to me that it's pretty common in Japanese companies and the reason they do it is that it's the only way a man who is married can dispose of his own money without his wife knowing it, so it seems those attitudes towards the roles of man and woman are pretty deeply ingrained. Time and time again I've met Japanese women whose sole ambition in life is to get married, stop working and let their husband support them. Well thanks but no thanks.
Well, the women spend the money on the household generally. I know from personal experiences where those cash bonuses that the men receive go. ^^


I think a lot of younger Japanese women are VERY carreer focused and very ambitious though. I often find culture differences less strong with the younger generation and don't have much trouble dating with them.