Risk of Working Illegally (outside Japan)

As I understand it, at least for the US, if a non-citizen is traveling with a US citizen, they can come through the citizen line with the US passport holder.
I think part of that comes down to understanding who you are traveling with. I'd venture to guess that it makes their jobs easier when you go though as a couple/group if you're actually traveling together and they can see that directly. I have been asked in the past if had anyone travelling with me when I was solo.
Correct. As a U.S. citizen , ALWAYS take your non-citizen GF with you through the citizen entry. ALWAYS.
 
It’s basically impossible to survive on minimum wage in the states these days unless you’re living with your parents or something like that.

The federal minimum wage for non-tipped workers is only $7.25 per hour. It hasn’t gone up since 2009!

Even in those states where the minimum wage has gone up recently (individual states can set a higher minimum wage than the federal one), life can be rough.
 
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It’s basically impossible to survive on minimum wage in the states these days unless you’re living with your parents or something like that.

The federal minimum wage for non-tipped workers is only $7.25 per hour. It hasn’t gone up since 2009!

Even in those states where the minimum wage has gone up recently (individual states can set a higher minimum wage than the federal one), life can be rough.
I'd argue even double minimum wage is barely livable on your own since rent is increasing like 10% every year. Before any deductions and taxes, $14.5 an hour comes to $2,320, but more than half of that will go just to rent for a 1 bedroom apartment (like $1200 for anything decent). So yeah, minimum wage is absolutely not livable on your own, especially if you don't work full time because you got the American special: employers not wanting to give minimum wage employees full time hours so they don't have to pay for benefits
 
Why would anyone, especially a Japanese person, want to step foot in US soil.. she’s based for not funding wars and genocide by (not) paying her taxes tho.
 
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Bizarre to people who don't live here. While I won't say it's overly common, a good percentage of fuzoku workers tell their family what they do.
It's not dinner table conversation, but it's not always a secret about what they do.
I’m so envious of girls who can share this part of their life with their family. :( My family is very strict and conservative.
 
I’m so envious of girls who can share this part of their life with their family. :( My family is very strict and conservative.
One of my first SL experiences was shocking. This girl told how she forbade her brother to visit Horinouchi shops when he moved to Tokyo. She didn't have any issue's with her younger brother going to Yoshiwara though.
 
Europe is the same, massive shortage of affordable housing. And with how much they hate high rise and how much they care about the climate, there won’t come any new housing anymore ever.
 
It’s basically impossible to survive on minimum wage in the states these days unless you’re living with your parents or something like that.

The federal minimum wage for non-tipped workers is only $7.25 per hour. It hasn’t gone up since 2009!

Even in those states where the minimum wage has gone up recently (individual states can set a higher minimum wage than the federal one), life can be rough.
Incorrect. Take San Francisco where I'm from for example. Minimum wage is $18. My friend opened a restaurant and they pay $18/hour BEFORE tip (I think California as a whole is 16 minimum for tipped workers). Some of these servers are taking home $300 a day for a 12 hour shift.

Yes, you will need a roommate unless you live in a microscopic studio (which I did in my early 20s), and no, you will not be able to afford many luxuries, if any, but you can survive.

The idea that you can make minimum wage and live a baller lifestyle is a problem that arises from gen Z delusion and social media addiction. Eating out is a luxury, when you're making minimum wage you're never supposed to eat out, but Gen z thinks that eating out is a part of life. Marketing psychology is so powerful and pervasive in society that people now think luxuries are a standard part of life, and if you're unable to afford them then you're not living (this is by design)

You're also not supposed to make minimum wage your whole life, you're supposed to work your way up and eventually make a salary that can support a family. HERE lies the problem, because rapid outsourcing of many jobs (particularly jobs that used to be de facto apprenticeships, like legal work, are being outsourced to India and now to AI) causes people to hit a pretty low ceiling for salary, and be forced to accept that because getting paid anymore means their company would transition to Indians or AI.

People who complain about minimum wage are bums looking for handouts. Small businesses, the backbone of any healthy society, can BARELY support these crazy high minimum wages as they currently are, if they go any higher all you will have access to is Amazon and Walmart.

It's hard, and only going to get harder. Wealth will accumulate into the hands of fewer people because it's natural that power concentrates itself. This is a problem, but raising minimum wage has the EXACT opposite effect for the common folk that you think it will, it destroys small business owners (who are the "champions" of the working class, the mom and pop owners that managed to climb out of the peasant class) and makes multinational corporations even stronger. That's why dems are always pushing for "higher minimum wage". It's effective at tricking stupid people into voting for them, and simultaneously helps their corporate masters in the mid-long run.

You want to take power AWAY from multi-national corporations, not force some 60 year old business owner lady to pay your unskilled ass $50/hour to flip burgers because that's the minimum wage you need to afford $26 justin bieber smoothies at Erewon.
 
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Why would anyone, especially a Japanese person, want to step foot in US soil.. she’s based for not funding wars and genocide by (not) paying her taxes tho.
It's all about the Benjamins... with the weak yen, escort rates are much higher in major US cities than in Tokyo. In NYC Japanese escorts command like $300 or JPY45,000 an hour minimum. If you go on Tryst you'll find some charging >JPY 220,000 an hour.

But I think a lot of the girls who get into this don't fully understand the risks involved... immigration, vice squad, and if you simply carry a bunch of cash the feds can confiscate it "just because" (as happened to Utada Hikaru's mom years ago)...
 
It's all about the Benjamins... with the weak yen, escort rates are much higher in major US cities than in Tokyo. In NYC Japanese escorts command like $300 or JPY45,000 an hour minimum. If you go on Tryst you'll find some charging >JPY 220,000 an hour.

But I think a lot of the girls who get into this don't fully understand the risks involved... immigration, vice squad, and if you simply carry a bunch of cash the feds can confiscate it "just because" (as happened to Utada Hikaru's mom years ago)...
The rates aren't really that much higher though. I mean in Tokyo you'll end up paying between $200-300 usd (with the favorable conversion) anyway. It's the add ons like filming that add up a lot. From what I understand, the girls tour because the volume is might higher.

While popular girls are always booked up in Tokyo, less popular ones tend to tour because if they fly to NYC or LA and advertise as Japanese, they'll get full bookings for like two weeks. That can be around 8 people a day. Let's say they're making $350 x 8 that's $2800/day. Maybe 1/3rd of that goes to the agency but they're taking home 1800/day. So in two weeks they can take home $25,000... which is like a year's salary for people in Tokyo with the exchange rate.

I actually met an escort recently who told me that she did this in NYC. She described the experience as quite horrible though, she said she was basically locked in a room (as in they actually locked her inside), and they wouldn't even let her go outside for walks. She was seeing 8-9 guys a day and the mamasan or whatever got pissed at her when customer's complained that she wasn't "enthusiastic enough". She said she wouldn't do it again.

I wouldn't call this human trafficking though, because they willingly do it, and sign up through these agencies that arrange everything for them.

Someone really needs to teach these girls how to invest. If I get close enough with a girl I always ask them what they do with all the money they make, and the answers are legit hilarious. Like this one girl said that she follows a J-pop group on tour, like literally flying around with them to several countries, sometimes over 6, and going to all their shows. The flights + tickets + hotel rooms, etc must add up to an absurd amount. I mean I'm glad she's doing what she enjoys but I'm also kind of thinking "you let guys record you getting fucked and blowing loads in your mouth... to follow around some J-pop group on tour????" What in the fuck lol. However I guess that's no different than me wasting my life away being a financial analyst and living in Tokyo so I can record myself fucking Japanese escorts. The circle of life.
 
escort rates are much higher in major US cities than in Tokyo. In NYC Japanese escorts command like $300

East Coast US, $300 has been the going minimum rate for an escort for at least 8 years now.
All the yen rate did was increase the amount of Japanese escorts travelling.

Tryst and slixa are ridiculous prices.
 
I actually met an escort recently who told me that she did this in NYC. She described the experience as quite horrible though, she said she was basically locked in a room (as in they actually locked her inside), and they wouldn't even let her go outside for walks. She was seeing 8-9 guys a day and the mamasan or whatever got pissed at her when customer's complained that she wasn't "enthusiastic enough". She said she wouldn't do it again.

I wouldn't call this human trafficking though, because they willingly do it, and sign up through these agencies that arrange everything for them.

Someone really needs to teach these girls how to invest. If I get close enough with a girl I always ask them what they do with all the money they make, and the answers are legit hilarious.
- First, good point about less popular girls doing it because I totally believe they will get full bookings easily in the US.

- That experience sounds terrible. I doubt the mamasan/pimp accurately explains to them what the average working day will be like. Whether you want to technically say it is trafficking or not is one thing, but regardless of what it is it sounds pretty fucked up. It depends on how the job was described to them, but regardless of that even just the fact they won't like the girl go for a walk is pretty absurd.

- Young/uneducated about money people always make stupid decisions. I know one girl who got big into crypto apparently. I have no idea how that has worked out for her but I doubt it is good.
 
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European women are not safe either. Anyone is a suspect to the US because the meatheads that work at immigration still believe that the US is the greatest country in the world, so surely people from ANY other country are just desperate to sneak into the US and either overstay their visas, work illegally or do both!

Immigration at any US port is quite awful. The douchebags working there are, almost without exception, rude meatheads on a power trip, whether you're a citizen or not. I get that it's a crappy job but it's a really crappy first impression for someone coming to the US.

Despite the exchange rate, what a risk for Japanese girls to go tour in the US. The US is where they would be most likely to be caught, get a disease, or get choked out to death in the hotel room by someone who thinks she's his property because he paid for her time. The US would be one of the absolute last places I would ever tour as a SW. Too dangerous on pretty much all fronts.
 
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I actually met an escort recently who told me that she did this in NYC. She described the experience as quite horrible though, she said she was basically locked in a room (as in they actually locked her inside), and they wouldn't even let her go outside for walks. She was seeing 8-9 guys a day and the mamasan or whatever got pissed at her when customer's complained that she wasn't "enthusiastic enough". She said she wouldn't do it again


In DC, I met a Japanese escort that I got along with and took a little extra care of her. She was at an agency with little access or transport anywhere, so I would do things like take her shopping and feeding her (no money no sex just friends). She said NYC was dirty, no showers, with violent patrons. She would get choked and roughed up. that agency allowed her to go out shopping at least, but no fun being in NYC. She says it was bad. there were also a lot of Japanese escorts advertising BBFS

Around the same time frame, another Japanese escort reported she was assaulted in NYC and word got around. she tried to set up an independent agency in the US, but it didn't seem to last.

Reports of robberies of SWs come from time to time. One I know was stalked and got death threats from a former client.

An escort friend that I briefly lived with says she could see up to 15 people a day in NYC on 30 min appts with an agency.
 
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It's all about the Benjamins... with the weak yen, escort rates are much higher in major US cities than in Tokyo. In NYC Japanese escorts command like $300 or JPY45,000 an hour minimum. If you go on Tryst you'll find some charging >JPY 220,000 an hour.

But I think a lot of the girls who get into this don't fully understand the risks involved... immigration, vice squad, and if you simply carry a bunch of cash the feds can confiscate it "just because" (as happened to Utada Hikaru's mom years ago)...
Half the girls I meet are considering going now and I try to explain to them the dangers but the pull factor is just too high and the scouts are very persistent. Especially to somebody who needs to pay off a huge host bill or get that surgery she always wanted…

And then I get a bunch of texts a few weeks later asking me questions about American immigration law and whether I should report their mamasan to the cops…
 
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Half the girls I meet are considering going now and I try to explain to them the dangers but the pull factor is just too high and the scouts are very persistent. Especially to somebody who needs to pay off a huge host bill or get that surgery she always wanted…

And then I get a bunch of texts a few weeks later asking me questions about American immigration law and whether I should report their mamasan to the cops…
Lol, the "pull factor" is just money. It's the same reason a lot of Japanese people would want to get regular jobs in America, 150k is like baseline in major US cities now.

I don't do escorting stuff in America because I like to go raw and I believe it's safer in Japan, but I have some finance friends who are seriously deep in the US scene. My friend even "dated" one of the popular girls and found out she made between 270-300k a year, CASH. If you don't understand taxes, that's like making $550,000 USD from a salaried job. Another girl, who was actually a bit older, maybe 32-33, was booked by an older guy for THREE MONTHS at a rate of $3000/day. Yes, she made fucking $270,000 in three months just living with this guy. She got to live in this luxurious 20 million dollar house, eat the best food, do whatever she wanted, and all she had to do was fuck this guy whenever he wanted.

That's fucking ridiculous. I seriously cannot believe this shit, it's so funny.

But anyways, if those girls report the mamasans they'll also get banned from the US themselves. Immigration knows this kind of stuff happens and they do try to stop it
 
Immigration at any US port is quite awful. The douchebags working there are, almost without exception, rude meatheads on a power trip, whether you're a citizen or not.
If you are a citizen, do yourself a favor and get global entry. $100 and it lasts 5 years. You get TSA pre check, and global entry itself. When I arrive in the US I point my face at a scanner thing then it spits out a ticket saying welcome, and then I am in. Takes no time at all.