Within the last two weeks, I've met two different women who have been sexless during 5 years.
5 YEARS !
They don't even feel the need to do it.
Personally, when a girl tells me that she has been sexless for so long, it's a total turn off.
How do you guys deal with that?
Or, you know, the other 87 reasons that don't require badmouthing women that aren't interested in sex for sport.
Some actually have incurable diseases & don't want to give it to anyone. Not everyone but this is one explanation for some.
Well, for the women that can't be fixed by a boyfriend, and/or are lazy or cowardly, can't we just send them somewhere else so we don't have to think about them? Or at least make them wear signs so that we don't have to bother with their old and dusty vaginas? Or should I attempt to have sex with her and mock her for her horrible lovemaking skills thereby assuring the world that she'll never attempt to have intimate contact ever again? Really, what is to be done here?
There are a few grains of salt in this thread but also a lot of negativity and downright misinformation.
Here is a cleaned up list of possible reasons:
1 - Asexuality (no sexual desire or sexual desire satisfied by masturbation only)
2 - Body consciousness
3 - STI (not wanting to risk infecting others)
4 - Sexual pain (caused by intact hymen, STI or vaginismus*)
5 - Lack of potential partners
6 - Unsure about sexuality and hesitant to explore
7 - Previous bad experiences
* Note this can be a physical muscle problem as well as mental one linked to previous experiences. I have never heard of it being caused by a "brain abnormality". It is also surprisingly common.
Anyone curious for more information should visit a forum actually populated by women, particularly those with any of the issues listed above.
To answer OP's question, if the person in question wants to have sex and is able to, I don't see why this is an issue, nor do I understand why it would be a turn off.
Maybe they just had bad experiences with deadbeats and losers... maybe previously they were the victims of sexual assault or rape....
1) You restated what was already stated in many cases, then pretend you are presenting new information
On what you did list that was new:
Asexuality- is not a normal human condition. The person, by definition and statistically, would be unusual.
Lack of potential partners- this would be highly suspect, especially over a 5 year period. Things like physical deformities, being extremely overweight, etc... would come into play. A person that claims they have never been on a date in 5 years, would also likely be an unusual or abnormal person, unless extenuating circumstances were involved (prison, war, priest, cancer...)
2) Heterosexual women are not dating and having sex with other women. Consequently, they don't usually have direct sexual experience with other women, outside of just themselves.
A heterosexual man can have met, dated, and had sex with; dozens, hundreds, to thousands of women. Where a heterosexual woman can have never done any such a thing, in regards to other women, besides look at herself in the mirror.
Lesbian women would often experience sex differently or view sex differently, so can be a bad or distorted source of information on heterosexual sex.
3) Women, in general, do NOT have superior knowledge on human anatomy or about sex. Going to a forum full of women, can give just as much "misinformation", if not more (denial, pretense, etc...)
The average woman, or man, is not thoroughly studying or usually thinking deeply about the subject of sex beyond more immediate types of sexual pleasure. Expertise, would come from studying the subject specifically and thoroughly, regardless if it was a man or woman.
1. I did not pretend this was new information. Any such pretence is doomed to failure considering my post comes later on in the thread. What I did say was that I had cleaned the list up. I had a longterm relationship with a gynacologist who specialised in sexual problems, as well as having gone through my own "dry spells" for various reasons. Consequently I am able to weed out a lot of the mistruths listed in this thread.
Approximately 1% of people describe themselves as asexual (homosexuality is 7%). Not so unusual.
2. Do you honestly believe that women don't discuss sexual matters with each other? Really?
3. When I recommended visiting a women's forum it was for reading actual accounts. While, yes, this is a chance of denial, I do not think I am wrong in believing that women who are not having sex are better at explaining their own reasons than someone who has not experienced this, no? Also their personal accounts of having visited doctors, etc. Certainly, I have never seen many of the mistruths listed in this thread on any of the women's forums I have read. Of course, actual medical articles should be the top priority.
1) Since when is 1% of the population the norm or usual??? I hope you are better at math than that.
2) There is a difference between reading a book about being a race car driver, and actually being a real race car driver. You seem not to know the difference.
I have direct experience with dealing with such women. OP, is talking about dealing with such women directly. Where you want to bombard others with views on how you feel things are supposed to be.
1. I never said it was usual or the norm. But 1 in 100 is certainly not unheard of and it is likely that most people will come into contact with someone who considers themselves asexual in their life. Medically, common is defined as: affects between 1 in 100 and 1 in 10 people – i.e. 1% to 10%.
2. So, what you are trying to say regarding race car drivers that there is a difference about reading about an account written by someone who is not a driver (or in this case hasn't had a dry spell) and someone who actually has had a dry spell?
Hmm, I wonder how that applies here.
As for "bombarding others with views", I had made exactly one post in thread (clarifying misinformation, suggesting where to find further information and answering OP's question) until you replied to me and was happy to stop there. If this constitutes as forcing my views on others, then I'm sorry but I don't think forums are for you. You on the other hand had made four (now seven out of sixteen in total) posts, mostly consisting of your views on why this occurs and with not much on how to specifically deal with the issue.
The very first post and paragraph I made, dealt directly with the question. "Talk with the women, and get her history and opinion (about it...)" You may want to re-read it. I dug into a list of what might be possible causes, to help when talking with the women about it. Things he can bounce off the woman or have in the back of his mind, when talking to them.
Where your post was about going after me, and trying to reformat what I typed to make yourself feel better, and not addressing the OP. In fact, I strongly doubt you can address the question of the OP.
Even a woman experiencing sexual dysfunction, can only speak about her situation, not for all other women.
True, a medical professional whose job it is to treat such women, is an expert opinion. But guess what? Is he actually trying to put his penis in and is having sex with the women? That's an entirely different perspective.
Lastly, I will leave you with a fun egghead experience I had some years ago. A couple comes to the happening's bar (swinger's bar) that me and a good pal of mine were hanging out. Woman of the couple claims to be a medical doctor. We are drinking wine, then get into some sexual discussions. A polite argument breaks out, where over G-spots. The female doctor claims that's not possible and orgasms come from only the clitoris.
I responded to the woman that it may only be true for her, not other women. She claimed that as a man, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. Worse yet, her husband (I assume), backed her up. The most interesting debate went back and forth. She shouting me down with all types of medical literature and authorities on the subject that I don't know.
The dates of my pal and I show up, and the ladies join us at the table. My swinger pal decided on an interesting challenge for 10,000 yen. The pot from all bets in the club went to 40,000 yen (more people involved, but too chicken to bet). I would attempt to give his lady friend, who I had not met yet until today, a G-spot orgasm. My girlfriend gave her approval, so off we all went.
With the doctor studying very intently and closely, I made my pal's girlfriend cum with my hand. Juice flying everywhere. And in fact, her vaginal juice dripping off the doc's face and hair. She begrudgingly, had to admit that I did it, and she had a very different attitude from that point. Not only that, but we gave lessons to her boyfriend.
Reading books about it, and actually experiencing it, are 2 different things. Greatly enjoyed the extra 30,000 yen (10,000 of the 40,000 pot was added by me), that I had won that night.
OK, let's do this a different way. You meet a guy, and you are interested in him.How is clarifying misinformation making myself feel better? I get taken on regular dates by charming gentlemen, I don't need to go editing someone's posts to improve myself esteem. If anything, the editing helps when bringing up issues as I removed the clearly insulting parts.
And I did answer OP's question with my own opinion as he did not specifically direct his question towards men.
Yes, the one does not speak for the many.
Sooo... You know better than a specialist who has trained in this for about 10 years? I'm going to have to disagree with you there, unless you happen to be a specialist yourself. By the way, sex doctors have sexlives too!
I'm not sure where you are trying to go with this, besides contradict yourself with regard to the idea that one person does not represent the many.
Now, we have clearly pulled poor OP's thread off course so I suggest we stop here. I honestly don't know what you want me to say, besides that I am "wrong" and you are "right". In the future, if you don't like a post of mine I suggest you ignore it as not to be "bombarded" with my views.
OK, let's do this a different way. You meet a guy, and you are interested in him.
Over dinner, he tells you that he hasn't had sex in 5 years.
What percentage of women are going to think that is normal and not question him as to what is wrong?
I was being ironic.