The Yoshiwara Soapland Resource Thread

[robinmask]

Hi! I'm new here!
I did a lot of digging recently, was going through the the HP of SL listed on this thread, googled here and there in the hope of find the grale but had no chance so far.

As I am looking for FCS, and can't use my place, I figured soapland would be the most convinient option.

But I am looking for a soapland that:
1. Accepts foreigners
2. Has actually young girls (real age under 21) (more on that bellow)
2'. Or girls whose real age is under 28 with glamorous body / huge hip, 'uncommons' : )
3. Is reasonably priced (under 50,000 JPY all included)

Regarding 2, I found many shops, let's say Santa Fe (that has recent reviews here), lists girls that 100% have a fake age.
E.g I just grab a random girl from their line up: みゆ, profile here http://www.santafe-group.com/santafe/cast/profile?gid=01328
-> Supposedly 20 years old.
-> Yet you can see she was already listed in 2016 and already had 20 at the time: http://web.archive.org/web/20160121...tafe-group.com/santafe/cast/profile?gid=01328

I have found shops that appear to list quality young women but they're all quite overpriced.

It would be my first time and I want to have a good experience...

Any tips / or adresses?

I don't know what you're smoking but the "grail" doesn't exist. You either cough up enough yen to get all the checkpoints satisfied, or you compromise. Most of the high-end establishments either don't accept foreigners or charge 65,000yen/session plus gaijin tax. And even if you somehow manage to find a place that let you in, pay an affordable price, and BOOM out comes a hot young chick for you to satisfy whatever JAV-induced fantasy you already popped up in your head, you're less likely to have a good session if you don't speak the language at all.

It's like...you're looking for a Porsche but your budget stops at a Honda Civic.

 

[surfingmilk]

Alright, thank you all for the valuable feedback!!
Well, not having experience with soaps, I really had no clue as you can see!

I had to gather community feedback to know if what I'm looking for just doesn't exist at all, or if I wasn't looking at the good places.

Regarding Steet Pick Up (SPU), I've done that more than 10 years, across countries (wrote a book about it lmao), works great but also takes a lot of time,
It's repetitive and I'm tired of it, and that's one of the reasons I now want to investigate soaplands

@robinmask yes I do speak fluent japanese (otherwise street pick up would have been really limited), does that change my chances of finding what I'm looking for?

@TAG Manager Indeed, my question appears a bit foolish. It's not the actual age that I want to know,
but I want to avoid booking "21yo girl", and then a 32y-o girl comes in... I will know right away and wont like it lol

The reason I was looking for under 50,000 JPY, is because I had the feeling of it being a good 'middle ground' price, when you look at reviews in the forum,
as well as browsing so many HPs...
If I can't be satisfied "at all" for an average price, I'm not sure I want to try spending even more... that's the rational behind it.
But you guys seem to say that under 50,000 there's no way I get close to what I'm looking for, so okay... taking notes.

Do you guys think it would be a better strategy to just walk yoshiwara streets, enter soaps that seem to allow me, and just ask to see the girls before deciding?
Cause if it were possible, without being forced into paying, I would quickly be able to tell if I'm interested in a girl or not.
Would they allow me to do that and in many cases just leave like 'No girls are of my taste today sorry'?
Is it a bad practice that will cause me not to be welcomed next time, or is it something everyone does and one of those things that are "not a big deal"?

 

[newbie]

Alright, thank you all for the valuable feedback!!
Well, not having experience with soaps, I really had no clue as you can see!

I had to gather community feedback to know if what I'm looking for just doesn't exist at all, or if I wasn't looking at the good places.

Regarding Steet Pick Up (SPU), I've done that more than 10 years, across countries (wrote a book about it lmao), works great but also takes a lot of time,
It's repetitive and I'm tired of it, and that's one of the reasons I now want to investigate soaplands

@robinmask yes I do speak fluent japanese (otherwise street pick up would have been really limited), does that change my chances of finding what I'm looking for?

@TAG Manager Indeed, my question appears a bit foolish. It's not the actual age that I want to know,
but I want to avoid booking "21yo girl", and then a 32y-o girl comes in... I will know right away and wont like it lol

The reason I was looking for under 50,000 JPY, is because I had the feeling of it being a good 'middle ground' price, when you look at reviews in the forum,
as well as browsing so many HPs...
If I can't be satisfied "at all" for an average price, I'm not sure I want to try spending even more... that's the rational behind it.
But you guys seem to say that under 50,000 there's no way I get close to what I'm looking for, so okay... taking notes.

Do you guys think it would be a better strategy to just walk yoshiwara streets, enter soaps that seem to allow me, and just ask to see the girls before deciding?
Cause if it were possible, without being forced into paying, I would quickly be able to tell if I'm interested in a girl or not.
Would they allow me to do that and in many cases just leave like 'No girls are of my taste today sorry'?
Is it a bad practice that will cause me not to be welcomed next time, or is it something everyone does and one of those things that are "not a big deal"?

I'm 90% sure there aren't any soaplands in Japan that will let you see the girls first.

Unless you need guaranteed FS, IMO delivery health is going to be a better option for younger girls. My only positive soap experience was at Dolce and they stopped allowing foreigners.

 

[requiemmorrow]

Alright, thank you all for the valuable feedback!!
Well, not having experience with soaps, I really had no clue as you can see!

I had to gather community feedback to know if what I'm looking for just doesn't exist at all, or if I wasn't looking at the good places.

Regarding Steet Pick Up (SPU), I've done that more than 10 years, across countries (wrote a book about it lmao), works great but also takes a lot of time,
It's repetitive and I'm tired of it, and that's one of the reasons I now want to investigate soaplands


yes I do speak fluent japanese (otherwise street pick up would have been really limited), does that change my chances of finding what I'm looking for?

Amazing. We are all amateurs compared to you then, man.
No effort women are literally just that: no effort. If you have the Japanese, just surf CityHeaven until you find someone with good pictures and costs the amount you want.

Indeed, my question appears a bit foolish. It's not the actual age that I want to know,
but I want to avoid booking "21yo girl", and then a 32y-o girl comes in... I will know right away and wont like it lol

This is where I just gotta say "man up." If she isn't her advertised age, then the shop duped you. The first time I went into Jan Jan Sugamo I damn near screamed bloody murder when mummified remains appeared before me in a sultry dress ready to suck out my soul. But it also made me realize just how insanely horny I was as she successfully did drain my soul (and balls) that Friday night horror of an evening.

If age is really that important, then you should stick to pick up and meeting girls not involved in fuzoku, as they are more likely not to lie to you about this.

The reason I was looking for under 50,000 JPY, is because I had the feeling of it being a good 'middle ground' price, when you look at reviews in the forum,
as well as browsing so many HPs...
If I can't be satisfied "at all" for an average price, I'm not sure I want to try spending even more... that's the rational behind it.
But you guys seem to say that under 50,000 there's no way I get close to what I'm looking for, so okay... taking notes.

Do you guys think it would be a better strategy to just walk yoshiwara streets, enter soaps that seem to allow me, and just ask to see the girls before deciding?
Cause if it were possible, without being forced into paying, I would quickly be able to tell if I'm interested in a girl or not.
Would they allow me to do that and in many cases just leave like 'No girls are of my taste today sorry'?
Is it a bad practice that will cause me not to be welcomed next time, or is it something everyone does and one of those things that are "not a big deal"?

Don't even bother asking the see the girls first. Do your research on CityHeaven or TOFTT with a walk-in.
Just whatever you do, use that Japanese fluency to be polite and kind.

 

[hrbb]

Alright, thank you all for the valuable feedback!!
Well, not having experience with soaps, I really had no clue as you can see!

I had to gather community feedback to know if what I'm looking for just doesn't exist at all, or if I wasn't looking at the good places.

Regarding Steet Pick Up (SPU), I've done that more than 10 years, across countries (wrote a book about it lmao), works great but also takes a lot of time,
It's repetitive and I'm tired of it, and that's one of the reasons I now want to investigate soaplands

@robinmask yes I do speak fluent japanese (otherwise street pick up would have been really limited), does that change my chances of finding what I'm looking for?

@TAG Manager Indeed, my question appears a bit foolish. It's not the actual age that I want to know,
but I want to avoid booking "21yo girl", and then a 32y-o girl comes in... I will know right away and wont like it lol

The reason I was looking for under 50,000 JPY, is because I had the feeling of it being a good 'middle ground' price, when you look at reviews in the forum,
as well as browsing so many HPs...
If I can't be satisfied "at all" for an average price, I'm not sure I want to try spending even more... that's the rational behind it.
But you guys seem to say that under 50,000 there's no way I get close to what I'm looking for, so okay... taking notes.

Do you guys think it would be a better strategy to just walk yoshiwara streets, enter soaps that seem to allow me, and just ask to see the girls before deciding?
Cause if it were possible, without being forced into paying, I would quickly be able to tell if I'm interested in a girl or not.
Would they allow me to do that and in many cases just leave like 'No girls are of my taste today sorry'?
Is it a bad practice that will cause me not to be welcomed next time, or is it something everyone does and one of those things that are "not a big deal"?

If you are doing research for your next book, I suggest you try them all.

 

[RickRickSanchez]

Please stick with cash. The yen is still weak and probably will stay that way… cash is much safer and usually cheaper (no surcharge).

I will prepare enough cash. Thanks a lot, bro!

I did some research in this forum and elsewhere on the internet. I think I will try Jyotei on my first JP visit. Showgun is also on my list, but it seems too expensive.

On the other hand, I really want a threesome (MFF). Any good recommendations? It seems like there is not much discussion about threesome experiences.

 

[yogurt]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this question but....i'm trying to access cityheaven from the US. Is that not a thing anymore? I need a vpn?

 

[newbie]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this question but....i'm trying to access cityheaven from the US. Is that not a thing anymore? I need a vpn?

They block traffic outside of Japan, you can use a VPN to access it.

 

[Karbon]

I will prepare enough cash. Thanks a lot, bro!

I did some research in this forum and elsewhere on the internet. I think I will try Jyotei on my first JP visit. Showgun is also on my list, but it seems too expensive.

On the other hand, I really want a threesome (MFF). Any good recommendations? It seems like there is not much discussion about threesome experiences.

You can do threesome in soaplands but the rooms are very small and the beds are 80 cm large. Your best bet for threesome action is the inflatable mattress which is usually larger. But don't count on a lesbian show
as the soapland girls are often quite shy when in duplex even if alone they will happily cat-bath your whole body without any place left out ...

 

[qcryp]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this question but....i'm trying to access cityheaven from the US. Is that not a thing anymore? I need a vpn?

Try proton vpn if you don't already have one, they offer a free Japan VPN host

 

[Durg50]

Alright, thank you all for the valuable feedback!!
Well, not having experience with soaps, I really had no clue as you can see!

I had to gather community feedback to know if what I'm looking for just doesn't exist at all, or if I wasn't looking at the good places.

Regarding Steet Pick Up (SPU), I've done that more than 10 years, across countries (wrote a book about it lmao), works great but also takes a lot of time,
It's repetitive and I'm tired of it, and that's one of the reasons I now want to investigate soaplands

@robinmask yes I do speak fluent japanese (otherwise street pick up would have been really limited), does that change my chances of finding what I'm looking for?

@TAG Manager Indeed, my question appears a bit foolish. It's not the actual age that I want to know,
but I want to avoid booking "21yo girl", and then a 32y-o girl comes in... I will know right away and wont like it lol

The reason I was looking for under 50,000 JPY, is because I had the feeling of it being a good 'middle ground' price, when you look at reviews in the forum,
as well as browsing so many HPs...
If I can't be satisfied "at all" for an average price, I'm not sure I want to try spending even more... that's the rational behind it.
But you guys seem to say that under 50,000 there's no way I get close to what I'm looking for, so okay... taking notes.

Do you guys think it would be a better strategy to just walk yoshiwara streets, enter soaps that seem to allow me, and just ask to see the girls before deciding?
Cause if it were possible, without being forced into paying, I would quickly be able to tell if I'm interested in a girl or not.
Would they allow me to do that and in many cases just leave like 'No girls are of my taste today sorry'?
Is it a bad practice that will cause me not to be welcomed next time, or is it something everyone does and one of those things that are "not a big deal"?

Given your preferences, Id recommend staying away from soaplands. If you speak japanese then just go on city heaven and find some good delivery health shop.

Also no, soaplands wont let you see the girl first.

 

[SteveC]

I'm 90% sure there aren't any soaplands in Japan that will let you see the girls first.

Unless you need guaranteed FS, IMO delivery health is going to be a better option for younger girls. My only positive soap experience was at Dolce and they stopped allowing foreigners.

Damn Dolce stopped allowing foreigners? That's unfortunate. I liked that place T_T

 

[AnotherTag]

3. Is reasonably priced (under 50,000 JPY all included)

Quality young girls in SL and also priced 50,000 and under? I think you are asking a little too much and offering too little. Maybe you think they are overpriced, but quality DH girls without FS can often fetch those prices already so SL would cost a bit more. Not to mention the often added on gaijin taxes, the list is gonna be so small already.

You might have to venture out outside of Tokyo to Kanagawa for your budget and requirements.

 

[surfingmilk]

Given your preferences, Id recommend staying away from soaplands. If you speak japanese then just go on city heaven and find some good delivery health shop.

Also no, soaplands wont let you see the girl first.

Thank you for your recommendation.
I thought Delivery health didn't offer FS, is that not the case?
Is there anywhere else to get FS besides Soap lands and private escorts?

Quality young girls in SL and also priced 50,000 and under? I think you are asking a little too much and offering too little. Maybe you think they are overpriced, but quality DH girls without FS can often fetch those prices already so SL would cost a bit more. Not to mention the often added on gaijin taxes, the list is gonna be so small already.

You might have to venture out outside of Tokyo to Kanagawa for your budget and requirements.

Yeah I think researching gave me the wrong impression that you could have not-so-bad quality service under 50,000 for FS... Given the feedbacks I guess its not the case and I might just have to swallow the pill and go for 75,000+

Damn Dolce stopped allowing foreigners? That's unfortunate. I liked that place T_T

Actually I called yesterday and they said it was OK to go, however you can't reserve, you go there directly, and they check with the available girls if one is ok for a foreigner or not. Also, 5000 jpy gaijin tax.

 

[newbie]

Yeah I think researching gave me the wrong impression that you could have not-so-bad quality service under 50,000 for FS... Given the feedbacks I guess its not the case and I might just have to swallow the pill and go for 75,000+


Actually I called yesterday and they said it was OK to go, however you can't reserve, you go there directly, and they check with the available girls if one is ok for a foreigner or not. Also, 5000 jpy gaijin tax.

In my experience at soaps, what you pay has little to do with how young or attractive the girl is and has more to do with how experienced she is. I tried going to "high-end" soaps many times, each time I paid 75-90k for covered service with someone older than I am. There are plenty of people that love soaps, so I'm not saying you won't have a good time, but it seems like your worried about having a good experience. In that case I'd recommend not paying more than you want to.

I went to Dolce a couple times and was never disappointed, but that was 3+ years ago. That's great news if they accept foreigners again, just don't do anything that might reverse that policy!

 

[Acid Burn]

Actually I called yesterday and they said it was OK to go, however you can't reserve, you go there directly, and they check with the available girls if one is ok for a foreigner or not. Also, 5000 jpy gaijin tax.

That’s good news if they’re back to allowing foreigners. I have a 50% success rate for a good time with them, albeit pre-covid era. One having just turned 21 and had a very inexperienced vibe but a nice GFE vibe also. Another mid-twenties, hot body, but not so great of an experience.

Yeah I think researching gave me the wrong impression that you could have not-so-bad quality service under 50,000 for FS... Given the feedbacks I guess its not the case and I might just have to swallow the pill and go for 75,000+.

Be aware that depending on the store, just because you go expensive, doesn’t by default mean good experience. It might just mean no condom for Japanese customers, while you the foreigner still go covered, so you may not really be getting anything for the higher price. Stick with reviewed places to know what in general you’ll likely be getting yourself into.

 

[jatriami]

I can confirm Dolce has started accepting foreigners again if you go to the store. Their policy seems to be similar to Y-Shirt where you can’t reserve and you have to choose from whoever is available, but it feels like the average quality is not so bad. As the other poster said above, they did indeed charge the 5000 yen fee, which left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth, but since I’d always wanted to try this store I accepted. All in it is 60 min for 25k yen, which is a so-so price. According to the girl I met, there have been foreigners coming to see her at least once a day so it seems like other language ecosystems also know about the news.

Don’t screw this up guys. Please be gentlemanly and preserve the few Yoshiwara shops we can access.

 

[Mercury0904]

Eh looking at what's been said about Dolce in the recent past on here I am not sure I want to risk that shop even if they allow foreigners again

 

[Durg50]

Eh looking at what's been said about Dolce in the recent past on here I am not sure I want to risk that shop even if they allow foreigners again

Ive been twice and thought it was fucking terrible. One man’s trash is another man’s treasure, YMMV and all that though.

 

[jatriami]

I’m curious to hear what you guys were expecting that made Dolce disappointing?

In my opinion, the shop feels pretty much like any of the other ones.

 

[TAG Manager]

I’m curious to hear what you guys were expecting that made Dolce disappointing?

In my opinion, the shop feels pretty much like any of the other ones.

Everyone has different expectations and the bar is set higher (or lower) for each person's own tastes.

@Durg50 said it best

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure

That's just the way it is...

 

[jatriami]

Everyone has different expectations and the bar is set higher (or lower) for each person's own tastes.

@Durg50 said it best

That's just the way it is...

Yes, I agree this is the case. I just wanted to hear specifically what was the difference between expectation and reality so I could better understand where they were coming from.

 

[robinmask]

Yes, I agree this is the case. I just wanted to hear specifically what was the difference between expectation and reality so I could better understand where they were coming from.

Welp, watching too much JAV is a one way acid trip to believing any young girl in sailor uniform is a perfect mix of innocent-but-hungry-for-sex (and good at it, too) succubus...

...while in reality most of them are doing it for money, couldn't care less how the customer feels, and are really bad at acting/hiding it

 

[jatriami]

Welp, watching too much JAV is a one way acid trip to believing any young girl in sailor uniform is a perfect mix of innocent-but-hungry-for-sex (and good at it, too) succubus...

...while in reality most of them are doing it for money, couldn't care less how the customer feels, and are really bad at acting/hiding it

If this was the case for the above posters who disliked Dolce, I can see why it would lead to disappointment.

But anyone who has done p4p enough times knows that it’s essentially a roll of the dice what the actual experience will be like. Sometimes it is a great experience because there is some chemistry and enthusiasm, but other times not, and it depends on many things like your personality, the girls’ personality, etc.

But with regards to the factors that are specifically related to the store, there are only a few, like state of the rooms, courtesy of the staff, picture to reality ratio, average quality of girls, and price.

With regards to these, Dolce is at least average amongst other stores in my opinion. But I’m definitely curious to hear more about other peoples opinions.

 

[newbie]

With regards to these, Dolce is at least average amongst other stores in my opinion. But I’m definitely curious to hear more about other peoples opinions.

Again, my experience was 3 years ago, but the staff were always nice, I never had to pay the gaijin tax, all 3 girls I saw were thin, young, cute, and gave good service. So for me it was above average. I tried 4 or 5 other well reviewed soaps that charged me triple the price for an average looking girl that was almost twice the age of the Dolce girls. Some gave ok service, some gave bad service, none of them ever knocked my socks off. Maybe I was just unlucky, lol.