Tobita Experiences And Questions

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  1. snkfreak

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    hello,

    staying 3 days in ishigaki right now and then leaving to hakata for 4 days and afterwards kyoto for 5 days.
    me and my best friend have 9 days tokyo left behind us and wanted to go to a soapland but then decided not to go, because if STDs and so on. we already sat in Kings Club and picked our Girls of choice^^

    are there any good recommendations for adult Entertainment, maybe FS, BJ, HJ around hakata and kyoto area?
    how safe are those Services in case of STDs and HIV?
    i have found a page of a kyoto massage Service which sounds good but is pretty expensive and it is onle the topless Girl for a massage and handjob...safe FS with a hot JGIRL would be much more apreciated. :)

    we have never been to those places before,so are there any advices?

    thanks a lot for helping

    snkfreak
     
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    nobody who could help?
     
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    In Kyoto check out Sayuri of Kansai Cherry Blossom. You won't be disappointed. Just treat her right and provide a review should you set up with her. Do a TAG search and you will find good information on her.
     
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    I thought nskfreak is asking for a Japanese incall service, and not for a gaijin-oriented escort.
    Sayuri has been advertised on this board so much, surely he knows about her?
     
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    thanks for reply.
    what about any pink Salons or soaplands?
     
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    if you are looking for fs and can move to osaka, i would suggest you tobita shinchi (飛田新地). dunno if there's any review of this place here, but it's one of my favorite place so far. the girls are really beautiful ( like fashion models ) and you can see them beforehand.

    in regard to the price, it's 20min 15k, 30min 21k etc..
    and it's CBJ CFS so no risk with std
     
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    Wow, talking being in a hurry! Slam-wham-bang, thank you mom. For me, it takes that much time even to get in the mood.
    Well, I guess just like there is fast food, there is fast service....
     
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    They have longer courses if you want them, but they get pretty expensive.

    Tobita is good because they have some gorgeous girls and you get to pick the one that you want, many of the places are foreigner-friendly (some Japanese skills are helpful, but I don't think they are strictly necessary), and if you are interested in trying different kinds of P4P, this one is pretty unusual -- a historic, street-level red light district.
     
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    Well, if I get to Osaka I might try... but how does the 20 minutes routine work? I mean, undressing and taking a shower does take some time, how much does it leave?
    Or is this full-clothed, unwashed, stand up thing? Eeek....
     
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    @Ryokun: thanks for the advice, maybe we try that..do the Girls get undressed? do thy come to the Hotel? i Need some more Infos. ;) ;)

    any other suggestions for hakata or kyoto?
    places where the Girls get undressed?
     
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    @Ryokun: cfs is with shower before or not?

    @meiji: any more Infos on Osaka?
     
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    I have never been to Tobita, but from the description it is obvious that this an incall thing; i.e. the deed done in the shop. At these rates, it would be ridiculous to expect the girls to travel to your hotel. Think.
     
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    ok, some more Infos still apreciated. ;)
    maybe some Internet pages?
     
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    Use your common sense. If it is a traditional red light district with in-house service, there won´t be any web pages.
     
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    There's no shower. The girl rubs you down with an alcohol solution before and after.

    Not really. Outside Tobita, Sayuri, and Miki from Asian Mystique there's not a lot else available in Osaka to my knowledge unless you speak good Japanese. If so, Google for your favorite types of places and give them a call. We could all use more intel here.
     
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    any Google maps links available in which streets to look for those Kind of Services in tobita?
    maybe any Special neon signs to look out for? oh, the Service is done naked?
     
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    Here's the general area. I think I took the Osaka subway to Dubutsuenmae and walked from there.

    http://goo.gl/maps/AzXVh

    If you are looking for specifics, maybe google Tobita to get more information.

    There's no neon signs. It's all very old school.
     
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    wow, tobita really is awesome. i was there and walked through the streets. there were so many awesome looking jgirls there. sadly the weather suddenly turned bad and i got totally wet so i had to return to the Hotel. it was the last evening in Japan. -.- i will definetely visit tobita again next time i will be in Japan, maybe 2017. hope it will still be there then and the Girls will still be as stunning as in 2013.

    around 60% of all the mama-sans greeted me with a "dozo". so chances for gaijin there are really high.

    but beware, decide fast which Girls you would like to choose, as the place really gets crowded around 8 pm and most Girls are not available because they are doing their work. many jgirls with big tits there. ^^

    iam just wondering how safe it really is to have sex there. do the Girls really only do their Service covered? what about stds like hpv which could be transmitted through Skin contact?
     
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    Touchy subject apparently. I had always assumed that going barebones in the "scene" is the equivalent of peeing in the pool, but was gobsmacked to learn that some people here think this is just a question of "sexual preference", and was scolded for "moralizing". So.... decide yourself, just know that there are lot of people with very different ideas out there.
     
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    The only girl I saw there did the service fully covered. I don't know if all the girls are that way, or if they can be persuaded to go without. I didn't try.

    Yes, you can get STDs a bunch of different ways. If you are that concerned about it, you probably shouldn't be having anonymous sex or even casual sex with anyone that you haven't gotten tested with. I would argue that many providers are going to be much more aware of their bodies and get tested more regularly compared to other women that have frequent casual sex with multiple partners. Especially in Japan where some Japanese women often have no clue whats going on with their bodies.

    Any answer to the question "is it safe?" is no, sex is never 100% safe.
     
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    I don´t want to dwell on this forever, but really: This is not a question of all or nothing. There are different activities and different levels of risk. To say either you refrain from sex altogether, or you go full throttle with barebones vaginal or even anal FS is an unfair generalization.
    And I am astonished one has to point this out.
     
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    I didn't say it was all or nothing. I said there's always a risk with ANY sexual activity. Each person has to a) be informed as to the risks and b) choose the risk level that person is most comfortable with. I generally prefer getting BBBJ and kissing because it's a lot more intense and intimate. I generally don't do bareback full service because personally, I think it's a little dangerous. But I don't go around calling people disgusting who do it, because I certainly understand why they do so. The fact is that just about every provider is going bareback with someone, whether it's most clients, a few clients, or her boyfriend. If that's too dangerous for you, then don't see providers at all, or avoid the ones that tend to do that (ie, Korean DHs).

    As you said, the hobby isn't a binary thing. It's a spectrum of physical contact and fluid exchange. I just find it hypocritical that guys who are fine with BBBJ CIM and kissing point to guys a little further down the spectrum and are doing BBFS and calling them disgusting. Beyond that, you are doing a disservice on a board where we try to exchange information. By calling out people as 'disgusting' they are far less likely to share information in the future. At the very least, people that say "you can get BBFS from Provider A" means people that want to avoid providers who regularly give that service now know to never see Provider A. You do what you are comfortable with, and let other people do what they are comfortable with. We all like different things (WALDT), and that doesn't just mean some guys like big tits and some guys like trans women. It means some guys have no interest in kissing a provider, some guys like a finger up their ass, and some guys like BBFS.
     
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    I do not find that hypocritical. And I don´t think this is "a little further down the spectrum", I think this a whole different spectrum.
    So lets agree to disagree on this. I won´t comment about this any more.
     
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    Yes, Meiji is right: research shows that there is no such thing as purely 'safe' for most activities, even with protection (depending on the disease in question, the 'protection's' percentage of reliability varies quite widely in many studies). He is also probably correct in the fact that you are more likely to meet a provider that is thoroughly on top of testing and doing her best to lessen the risk as far as possible than the typical 'one night stand'. A careful provider will take good care of herself, knowing that receivers are at an even higher risk, and be committed to being responsible not just selfishly but for everybody's sake. m(__)m

    Just like each person has a different level of acceptable risk (which is fine as long as they properly inform their partners), you must assume this is the case in places like Tobita or SoapLands with the girls there too. That said, it would be a rare girl in Tobita to go unprotected. Soaplands is pretty much the same, though less so orally (and some are specifically not safe). Either way the organization in questions (Tobita's 'union'/SL companies) certainly will have their girls tested on a monthly basis. If not for being the right thing to do, then at least because it is a) better for business (after all, girls are easily replaced), or b) to keep officialdom appeased.

    Short of being celibate or sticking with a single, tested partner (who may or may not be faithful), what can you do to lessen your risk? Well, first do everything with protection (superGon is transmitted pretty easily via the oral route and is no longer sure to be cured). Next find a provider that takes these things seriously. And finally (maybe firstly), get all the related vaccines you can (like for Hep A/B and HPV, which they prefer you to be under 27yrs)....hopefully providers are doing so as well. You could further take anti-virals/retro-virals preventatively (sic) for an added step of protection if you can afford the expense.

    Nobody likes having to use protection (and many ladies feel the same as many men about this) but within this hobby, being as responsible as one can may not a terrible idea. At the end of the day, only you can decide your level of acceptable risk but it is better to do so from an informed position, and be kind enough to be honest about it and accept politely that others may have a different level.
     
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    Sigh... I promised to shut up about this, but please note: I never said "purely safe". Meiji brought up the concept of "100% safe" himself. This is called a "strawman argument" in discussions.

    I simply said that nama honban has always been considered beyond the red line, with everybody in the scene I ever talked to. And I was gobsmacked to read that some people here nonchalantly call nama honban a "sexual preference". Well, maybe times have changed. Not for the better, apparently.
     

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