Who Pays For Social Time with Women?

[MossBoss]

What is the point of paying for social time with women? There are 70 million plus women in Japan and many of them are attractive and like speaking to guys.

I guess the main reason is to find out about the women’s personality before booking them for bedroom time. Are there any other possible reasons?

 

[Frenchy]

What is the point of paying for social time with women? There are 70 million plus women in Japan and many of them are attractive and like speaking to guys.

I guess the main reason is to find out about the women’s personality before booking them for bedroom time. Are there any other possible reasons?

If you include hostesses in this category, there are in fact many men who pay for social time. I did, but I stopped. I guess it has often to do with getting your ego stroke, not just your penis (which is easier to do in a way)

 

[TAG Manager]

Millions (yen) are spent on Hostesses all the time and you don't get to take them home.

OTOH, some people are [not] interested in 'bedroom time' and just want the social interaction.
But, maybe they're socially awkward and can't meet people...

People pay doms to get pissed on. People will pay for just about anything if they want it bad enough.


I also feel like we're recycling an old topic.

 

[Wwanderer]

People will pay for just about anything if they want it bad enough.

Indeed so. Some people will also question why anyone would pay for anything for which they wouldn't pay. It is as though they cannot conceive, even in principle, of someone who values things differently than they do.

-Ww

 

[warubuta]

The OP is just saying that he thinks paying for social time is stupid, lame, or otherwise shitty. He is saying so in the form of a question. Of course he knows that some men do this because they want to simply talk to women and they can’t do it without paying for it. He gets it. He is just making a statement. Interestingly, @synapse1993 migjt ask why some people pay for sex.

 

[MossBoss]

I guess it has often to do with getting your ego stroke

You might be right. It’s like the guys who believe their 4 inch c**k is big because a random sex worker said it was.

 

[Wwanderer]

some men do this because they want to simply talk to women and they can’t do it without paying for it.

Actually people will pay for many things that they could get for free or for much less money for a wide variety of perfectly valid reasons.

And as an aside, socializing with (good) hostesses is quite a bit different from conventional (free) socializing with women. To me it is much less interesting, but to some men it is a lot more relaxing and less demanding, especially when they are drunk.

-Ww

 

[TAG Manager]

The OP is just saying that he thinks paying for social time is stupid, lame, or otherwise shitty. He is saying so in the form of a question. Of course he knows that some men do this because they want to simply talk to women and they can’t do it without paying for it. He gets it. He is just making a statement. Interestingly, @synapse1993 migjt ask why some people pay for sex.

And it just turns into a circlejerk, just like similar topics.

 

[Cwilly]

Japanese people feel that Drinks are more tasty when beautiful girls pour for them. One of my coworkers spent 1 mil yen for 2 day trips with a bar girl to HI.

 

[akasam]

Men pay for social time for exactly the same reasons men pay for sex, it's not that hard to figure out.

 

[MossBoss]

Men pay for social time for exactly the same reasons men pay for sex, it's not that hard to figure out.

There are millions of attractive women in Japan who are very interested in spending ‘social time’ with foreigners. They would call it a ‘free English lesson.’

Paying for ‘sex’ and ‘social time’ are completely different.

 

[BB0523]

I think people pay for social time for the ease of it... I mean if you want to spend time with someone, but don't have the time to find a "social" partner or too lazy or both, then you can book an escort for social time only... or some other source... I think it makes complete sense... If you want to get to know a escort before you get more intimate (maybe not the right word) then you can book for social time 20,000/hour then 10,000/hour after that.... One could argue, that's a waste of money or why would anyone do that ? Well.... the people that have little time and want to make sure they have some personality compatibility would probably do this. Then when they book the escort it's already a 2nd meeting and they act like long lost lovers... for example.... Also gets rid of those first few minutes of potential awkwardness..
Another way to look at this... if you meet some random girl and after a few minutes of talking you realize... OY difficult to even have a normal conversation.. so you are thinking how can you remove yourself from this situation. just my 2 cents.....

 

[Frenchy]

I think people pay for social time for the ease of it... I mean if you want to spend time with someone, but don't have the time to find a "social" partner or too lazy or both, then you can book an escort for social time only... or some other source... I think it makes complete sense... If you want to get to know a escort before you get more intimate (maybe not the right word) then you can book for social time 20,000/hour then 10,000/hour after that.... One could argue, that's a waste of money or why would anyone do that ? Well.... the people that have little time and want to make sure they have some personality compatibility would probably do this. Then when they book the escort it's already a 2nd meeting and they act like long lost lovers... for example.... Also gets rid of those first few minutes of potential awkwardness..
Another way to look at this... if you meet some random girl and after a few minutes of talking you realize... OY difficult to even have a normal conversation.. so you are thinking how can you remove yourself from this situation. just my 2 cents.....

It’s also a way to assess a person’s character I guess, and ability to « give back ». If she thinks she gets paid just to show up, let you do most of the talk and looks like she’s bored and would rather look at her iphone or be somewhere else, that may be a sign things will not be great either in the sack.

 

[BB0523]

It’s also a way to assess a person’s character I guess, and ability to « give back ». If she thinks she gets paid just to show up, let you do most of the talk and looks like she’s bored and would rather look at her iphone or be somewhere else, that may be a sign things will not be great either in the sack.

I agree completely with you @Frenchy ....

 

[Frenchy]

I agree completely with you @Frenchy ....

... and this is where, in my opinion, sugaring is superior: you don’t need to pay for the first meet and greet. And the lady is usually much more into the talk.

 

[BB0523]

... and this is where, in my opinion, sugaring is superior: you don’t need to pay for the first meet and greet. And the lady is usually much more into the talk.

The sugar bowl for me has not been that good... Would love to find a SB but I guess I'm too picky and not tolerant of flakey behavior... but I keep looking..... ever hopeful....

 

[Frenchy]

The sugar bowl for me has not been that good... Would love to find a SB but I guess I'm too picky and not tolerant of flakey behavior... but I keep looking..... ever hopeful....

You’re right, I should have added that in many cases the first discussion (if it ever happens) is a turn off, but at least you didnt pay top dollar for it.

 

[MossBoss]

OK. ‘Social time’ makes sense for scoping out a potential escort before dropping a small fortune.

Although saying this, it might be a better option just booking the shortest ‘play’ time instead. If social time is 20,000 yen for two hours. And one hour of sex is 30,000 yen. The 30,000 yen option is still better value.

 

[Durg50]

You might be right. It’s like the guys who believe their 4 inch c**k is big because a random sex worker said it was.

Wait.... so you mean.... ah fuck.

 

[User#19043]

I pay for social time with my wife every paycheck
Not by choice either!
LOL

 

[akasam]

There are millions of attractive women in Japan who are very interested in spending ‘social time’ with foreigners. They would call it a ‘free English lesson.’

Paying for ‘sex’ and ‘social time’ are completely different.

Are you saying it's impossible for you to find an attractive girl willing to have sex with you for free? Not the case for me and not the case for most of the guys here, you must be different.

The reason you pay is to get a more attractive girl, a more interesting girl, a girl who would let you come and go as you please, a girl who is not going to make demands of you, a girl who pretends you are more interesting and better at intercourse.

These are all exactly the same reasons for paid sex work and billions of guys do this in one form or another (some times it's just tipping a hot bartender).

I chat with random "attractive" ladies in bars all the time. The interactions at hostess clubs and the like are far, far different. Better in some ways, not as good in others. But to say that it makes no sense to pay for it is validating every argument that someone makes when telling you not to pay for sex.

If you are having the same interactions during "social time" with the same women as IRL, you are seriously doing it wrong.

 

[MossBoss]

Are you saying it's impossible for you to find an attractive girl willing to have sex with you for free? Not the case for me and not the case for most of the guys here, you must be different.
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The reason you pay is to get a more attractive girl, a more interesting girl, a girl who would let you come and go as you please, a girl who is not going to make demands of you, a girl who pretends you are more interesting and better at intercourse.

These are all exactly the same reasons for paid sex work and billions of guys do this in one form or another (some times it's just tipping a hot bartender).

I chat with random "attractive" ladies in bars all the time. The interactions at hostess clubs and the like are far, far different. Better in some ways, not as good in others. But to say that it makes no sense to pay for it is validating every argument that someone makes when telling you not to pay for sex.
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If you are having the same interactions during "social time" with the same women as IRL, you are seriously doing it wrong.

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It appears that you are not a native English speaker so I’ll forgive you for failing to understand the previous posts.

Also I’m not interested in the opinions of a naive ‘teenie bopper’ like yourself. So jog on unless you have something worthwhile to say.

 

[warubuta]

Are you saying it's impossible for you to find an attractive girl willing to have sex with you for free? Not the case for me and not the case for most of the guys here, you must be different.

The reason you pay is to get a more attractive girl, a more interesting girl, a girl who would let you come and go as you please, a girl who is not going to make demands of you, a girl who pretends you are more interesting and better at intercourse.

These are all exactly the same reasons for paid sex work and billions of guys do this in one form or another (some times it's just tipping a hot bartender).

I chat with random "attractive" ladies in bars all the time. The interactions at hostess clubs and the like are far, far different. Better in some ways, not as good in others. But to say that it makes no sense to pay for it is validating every argument that someone makes when telling you not to pay for sex.

If you are having the same interactions during "social time" with the same women as IRL, you are seriously doing it wrong.

You are missing a fundamental difference between talking and fucking. Most men, not all but most, can enjoy sex even if they know that the woman is doing it for money and not really enjoying it. Conversation, on the other hand is different. Most men, not all but most, don’t enjoy having a woman forcing and faking and acting like they are enjoying talking to you. This is all arguable. But it is mostly true. This is why pay for sex is world wide popular activity, but hostess clubs and pay for talk is, comparativly, pretty minor.

 

[MossBoss]

You are missing a fundamental difference between talking and fucking. Most men, not all but most, can enjoy sex even if they know that the woman is doing it for money and not really enjoying it. Conversation, on the other hand is different. Most men, not all but most, don’t enjoy having a woman forcing and faking and acting like they are enjoying talking to you. This is all arguable. But it is mostly true. This is why pay for sex is world wide popular activity, but hostess clubs and pay for talk is, comparativly, pretty minor.

Well put.

 

[Yuriko]

But, from escort pov, if you want our "1 hour" social time, at the same time, we're not being able to give out that slot, to miss the opportunity of more expensive p4p session. We give out our time, please respect our time, that we're giong it out for you.

That is different from "girls in general", they're used to not paid, and feel rather offended for "being paid" for non escorts. I think people who can get a date without paying, go for hook ups, internet hook ups.street walker hook ups.

The more you get from a regular girl, you're the winner!