Wwanderer
Kids, don't try this at home!
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I don't really see the major objection here. I'd say most mongers out there don't have the hobby as a major part of their life, and to marry an active provider is a pretty drastic change in their lives. That's not necessarily a negative thing, but it is a big change. Contrast with a number of other careers. I enjoy going out for a drink, even regularly, but honestly I don't know if I'd want to marry someone that owned a bar. Or even careers that many see as positive- I don't know that I'd marry a police officer or someone in the military, for reasons that have nothing to do with 'what they do'. It has to do with the danger that they face and how it might affect me or our children. None of those are necessarily negative judgements on the people that are in those careers. I don't think RTG ever said "prostitutes are not fit to be mothers". He said he doesn't want the mother of his children to work as a prostitute.
It's not because I don't want to marry or have kids with a SW that I don't think they can be good wife or mother for someone else.
It's not because I don't like apple pie that every one should dislike apple pie too. It's just my own personal taste and no matter how much you might tell me you like apple pie it won't make it tastes good for me
Yes @meiji, it is *possible* that a man might not consider a sex worker a suitable mate or a suitable mother for his children for some mundane and benign reason that involves no negative judgements. And yes @Mr Cat, it is *possible* that it could be simply a matter of personal taste, like preferring peach pie to apple pie. This could be true in any individual case for all I know, and to be clear, I have *zero* interest in judging specific TAGers whom I've never met and almost certainly never will. Why would I care? Why would they care? Moreover, I of course totally agree that everyone can and should conduct their personal lives based on their own opinions and judgements.
But come on, guys; let's be real. In a world that so extremely disapproves of and severely stigmatizes sex work and sex workers, the *huge* majority of men who reject the possibility of a sex worker as a mate or a mother of their kids are certainly motivated by exactly that sort of disapproval and stigmatization, in other words by precisely such negative judgements. Surely no one would dispute that. And fwiiw (i.e., no one need particularly care what I think), I do judge those attitudes and values as cruel, hurtful, unjust, intolerant, unworthy and (in simple terms) bad. The reason I feel strongly about it is that I have seen "up close and personal" how much pain and harm such wide spread and harsh negative judgements cause to sex workers.
Moreover, I can absolutely assure you that virtually all sex workers would perceive a statement by a man that he would not want them to be a mother to his children as judgmental and hurtful, as meaning that he does not regard them as a good enough person to fulfill this very fundamental role in the lives of most women. Perhaps this is oversensitivity on their part, but if so, it is due to the fact that they have to live and function in a world so full of people who think ill of them for what they do.
And, of course, if the guy adds something like this:
In fact, the egotistical bastard I am, I have some more "rules ", which I expect conformity or will not proceed with a relationship. Smoking is a no go, trinking within reasonable limits, no drugs and no vegetarian/vegan whatsoever.
It would certainly reinforce the perception of a judgmental and disapproving attitude.
(The last item on RTG's list made me chuckle...the implication that being a vegetarian was a vice comparable to and perhaps worse than drugs, drinking, smoking etc. Horror of horrors, a vegan ! OMG!! )
-Ww
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