Am I In Trouble?

[BlackJack1]

I don't know the exact chances, maybe you should google them or maybe someone else in the forum knows then.
Only cumming in her for a small part and this just one time doesn't sound like a big chance at all but if she somehow planned it that it was just during the few days in a month she can get pregnant it's maybe dangerous.

Damn. The results that I googled it is not good... There is 60% chance of getting pregnant even though there are small amount of cum can also lead to pregnancy.

Tell her she is crazy and can't expect any help from you and block her line and you'll probably wont hear from it again. Just a poor girl with some mental issues.

How can someone with mental issues are able to be employed by a soapland? On the other side,I feel a bit guilty for doing this and blocking her once and for all.

As they exchanged LINE contacts, I'm wondering if this is an issue where the woman is trying to escape prostitution?

Woman escaping prostitution is popular in Japan? Never heard of it before. But I do have some few contacts from different providers at different locations but mostly are from delivery health.

She is perhabs looking among her customers for a suitable man to marry and is trying to force the issue by getting pregnant. She might not understand that trapping a man with a pregnancy and tricks is among the worse ways to go about it, versus a more normal dating process.

This trick is it common in Japan? Should I be aware of it in the future?

 

[split]

Are the tests here bad? I get tested very regulary (i strive to once in a month a small vaginal test and once in 3 months a blood test. I don't quite enjoy needles so i wouldn't do that one more than once in a 3 months) and they always come back negative which is great. But if i hear how easy some people on here caught diseases, even through unprotected oral, it makes me pretty paranoid.
I'm not overly worried about diseases (take a break from sex and a bunch of pills and it will be over, especially if you discover them in an early stage) but it would be quite worrying that the tests could lie to me.

Im not sure. I was tested the first time here a few months ago and there was something I found a bit dubious given that I worked in a doctor's office a 2 different labs. It was the way they handled my specimen (can't remember if it was blood or urine). I noticed they didn't put a bar code sticker on the vial which is basically to guarantee tracking to the correct person and chain of custody. I watched and waited but never saw them put any indicator on the specimen. Now, I'm not sure if they applied it after I left. I can't really prove what I didn't see. I'll know next to ask them when they will apply it if they don't do it in front of me. For herpes there are tests which rely on ranges and those ranges don't always reflect a true indication of not having or having the virus. I think subsequent testing is later needed to determine if the result is still elevated or within range.

 

[split]

Maybe, in her mind, she then thinks it's a "good" idea to trick and trap various customers she has selected for being the father of her baby and then force/push/guilt trip them into marrying her.

As I said, she might be Chinese. Some normal women in China do this just for marriage. If she is actually a Chinese in Japan what a good ticket, although naive, to get a greencard from a willing foreigner.

 

[Solong]

Damn. The results that I googled it is not good... There is 60% chance of getting pregnant even though there are small amount of cum can also lead to pregnancy.

Dude, that's an absolutely ridiculous and bogus statistic that is no way based on reality. You probaly went to some website with an religious agenda or condom maker, both whom will use scare tactics and at times lie or distort facts, to push their agenda or sales. Let's do some simple math and use logic.

Out of 30 days, it's only likely for a woman to get pregnant between a 2 to 5 day window. The variation is based on her ovulation and life span of sperm (2 to 5 days).

The LESS sperm ejaculated into a woman, the LESS likely she is to get pregnant. And contrary to popular myths, pre-cum is mainly a lubricant that has nearly no sperm. To drive this point home. There are many men with LOW sperm counts who have been TRYING to get their wives pregnant for YEARS and have FAILED.

There are MILLIONS of couples who try to get pregnant and can't. Women can also have numerous issues, where it's difficult for them to get pregnant. It's not to say pregnancy isn't possible, but it is to say it's not as easy as 1 drop of sperm landing around the vagina will result in pregnancy.

Also, the immune system and vaginal fluids of women tend to be inhospitable and kill the sperm of new men she is sleeping with. It often takes repeated sexual intercourse with the same man for the vagina to adapt to incoming sperm through various hormonal signals.

Not saying pregnancy 1x and 1st time is totally impossible, but the odds are mathematically very LOW.

 

[Solong]

How can someone with mental issues are able to be employed by a soapland? On the other side,I feel a bit guilty for doing this and blocking her once and for all.


Woman escaping prostitution is popular in Japan? Never heard of it before. But I do have some few contacts from different providers at different locations but mostly are from delivery health.


This trick is it common in Japan? Should I be aware of it in the future?

Women are not hired for their sanity at soaplands nor is it a type of job where they are doing psychological evaluations during the interview process. So the soapland is not likely to know the woman has severe mental problems, until the issue comes up through angry or complaining customers.

You should be wary of women doing something unusual or unprofessional. Think of the context that you are in. A prostitute is NOT your girlfriend, and if she was, you wouldn't have to meet her at the soapland. Your girlfriend can meet you at your or her apartment. Therefore a woman asking you to not use a condom and wanting you to impregnate them, is clearly not standard procedure at soaplands.

A woman asking to do such unusual things would clearly have a motive, so think about what the motives based on her actions could possibly be. And do you want her having your children and want to marry her? If not, then get the hell out of that situation, and quickly.

 

[just4fun]

It was the way they handled my specimen .

Did they spit it in a cup?

 

[RandomTokyoGuy]

I actually know a couple who hit jackpot on their very first shot But that's nowhere near the norm. As @Solong stated, there are millions of couples trying without success.

 

[RandomTokyoGuy]

If she is clean, she wouldn't just trust anybody to have bareback sex with her.

Just anecdotally, I recently met a provider (neither Japanese nor in Japan), who put real emphasis on two points when we set up our date; no unprotected sex and no anal.
When we actually met, we clicked really well and I got her extremely horny. So we ended up in some kind of missionary position, with my uncovered tool sliding along the outside of her public, kinda reverse sumata, while kissing and fondling. She got so excited, that she repeatedly and with some energy tried to pull me in. In fact she didn't allow me to put on a condom before finishing her by hand.
It turned out that she was quite new to the business and only part time, so I doubt that would happen again in a few month, if she continues, but women can get caught in the heat of the moment too.

I have heard different opinions from women, whether it feels different or not, but putting on a condom definitely interrupts the play and is a nuisance to anyone.

Every guy wants to do it without (if there is no risk of pregnancy), so if both sides consider it reasonably safe and the risks more and more mitigated by advancing medicine, it's not surprising that it's offered. Until you catch something, it arguably gives a competitive advantage. If you look for it, you can find unprotected sex in Europe as well.

 

[BlackJack1]

There are many men with LOW sperm counts who have been TRYING to get their wives pregnant for YEARS and have FAILED.

Before I went to the soapload,I didn't involved in any sexual activities such as masturbating,going to a pink salon and etc for a week. Thus there is a possibility of increasing sperm count. Correct me if I'm wrong.

A woman asking to do such unusual things would clearly have a motive, so think about what the motives based on her actions could possibly be.

Actually this wasn't my first time of getting a provider who agrees on bareback action. 1 of the girl I visited at a delivery health in Shibuya,she said she has sore throat,thus she allows me to do penetration.

Every guy wants to do it without (if there is no risk of pregnancy)

Couldn't agree more!

 

[injp]

I once had a chinese girl in a massage este request bareback sex. I told her I had a condom but she didn't want me to use it. Her reason?

She was afraid that opening the condom would make too much noise and the other girls would hear her. She was also worried about how to dispose of it without someone finding it.

I promised her I would be very quiet and take it with me after. So she agreed and we had sex while she was biting her pillow so she wouldn't make any noise.

 

[Durg50]

lol.
No, holding it in for a few days doesnt affect sperm count. Sperm count and quantity of ejaculate are not the same thing.

And by the way, banging the delivery health girl without a condom BECAUSE she was unwell... Probably not a smart move.

 

[Jason Maximum]

Side story: I saw a popular Sugamo Estonian bombshell over a year ago (didn't feel like reviewing, not an A-game experience on my part). I knew what I wanted going in. First time meeting. She told me it was X for FS (expected this option, didn't want it but I expected to be offered it), ... and 2X for Nama. I hope that my "WTF" face wasn't too clear, but the concern with these ladies is not "will they get pregnant and stalk me" but "will my cock fall off?" If she's offering you nama, she's offering hundreds of others the same.

For me, being offered nama is like "Hey... wanna share a needle?"

I basically was super excited for a one-hour encounter with all sorts of stuff depending on mood before she showed up... after that offer, I basically settled for a BJ and backrub, blamed "being tired from meetings at work today, sorry" for my lack of enthusiasm and not "Hey that fucked up admission basically made me turtle, I'm amazed I'm not nauseous".

I come from a country with a scary history of AIDS, and realize that these days there's even more insidious shit out there, so to me BBBJ with a well-reviewed place/provider is as unprotected as I go (at Jan Jan the girls basically gargle rocket fuel between clients). Odds are much lower here for HIV, higher for everything else.

Not judging folks, just sayin'. Be fuckin' careful. Babies aren't nearly as scary as What's Going Around LA Clubs These Days. Live to tell your tales in the review forums...

 

[User#16452]

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[BlackJack1]

And by the way, banging the delivery health girl without a condom BECAUSE she was unwell... Probably not a smart move.

Why is it? She had sore throat, she can't use her mouth therefore she used her lower body to satisfy her customers.

 

[Durg50]

Why is it? She had sore throat, she can't use her mouth therefore she used her lower body to satisfy her customers.

I got nothing

 

[Sudsy]

Why is it? She had sore throat, she can't use her mouth therefore she used her lower body to satisfy her customers.

A sore throat can be a symptom of infections in other parts of the body, particularly viral infections such as HIV, HPV, and herpes. It's also indicative of high levels of viral activity, meaning that the afflicted person is more infectious than usual.

Herpes sufferers will commonly get a sore throat, among other symptoms, at the start of an outbreak.

 

[Solong]

A sore throat can be a symptom of infections in other parts of the body, particularly viral infections such as HIV, HPV, and herpes. It's also indicative of high levels of viral activity, meaning that the afflicted person is more infectious than usual.

Herpes sufferers will commonly get a sore throat, among other symptoms, at the start of an outbreak.

While this can possibly be true, and agree that when dealing with a sex worker that a customer should be very cautious, a sore throat doesn't always mean a bad or dangerous sickness. Sore throats can come from drinking too much alcohol, yelling or singing excessively, spicy food, common cold, sucking too much or trying to deep throat a large penis, etc...

I'm just saying that we shouldn't always associate a sore throat with a major sicknesses... However, if a woman is your REAL girlfriend, then you can trust her situation a lot more. With a prostitute, a guy should be extremely cautious. It appears that various guys are substituting and mistaking their time with a prostitute, as if with a true girlfriend, and not understanding the danger in that.

 

[meiji]

Follow the bouncing strawman. My emphasis...

lol.
And by the way, banging the delivery health girl without a condom BECAUSE she was unwell... Probably not a smart move.

A sore throat can be a symptom of infections in other parts of the body, particularly viral infections such as HIV, HPV, and herpes.

While this can possibly be true, and agree that when dealing with a sex worker that a customer should be very cautious, a sore throat doesn't always mean a bad or dangerous sickness.

I'm just saying that we shouldn't always associate a sore throat with a major sicknesses...

Nobody ever said 'sore throat = STD'.

I mean, even if you aren't in the hobby, if you are sick you shouldn't go to work. This is especially true where there's skin-to-skin or bodily contact. Hell, I don't want to see a provider with a sore throat because she could give me a bad cold, or strep throat, even before getting to the more dangerous nasties.

Don't hobby or provide when sick, folks.

 

[TokyoJoeblow]

I would be much more worried about that Soapland whore giving you HIV or a load of STD's than getting her pregnant. It is a Soapland...so her claiming rape against you would just be retarded. She would be embarrassing herself.

 

[Solong]

Follow the bouncing strawman. My emphasis...







Nobody ever said 'sore throat = STD'.

I mean, even if you aren't in the hobby, if you are sick you shouldn't go to work. This is especially true where there's skin-to-skin or bodily contact. Hell, I don't want to see a provider with a sore throat because she could give me a bad cold, or strep throat, even before getting to the more dangerous nasties.

Don't hobby or provide when sick, folks.

It's not a strawman, on my part, if that's the point. There seems to be some confusion on what a strawman is or in the interpretation of what was quoted.

I'm not refuting the possibility of what Sudsy or Durg50 are saying, but simply emphasizing it's not the only reason possible.

"Probably", "can be", and "possibly" are similar in meaning and connotation. Particularly in how the 3 quoted people used it.

Furthermore, "shouldn't always" is aligned with the concept of "not always" and "possibly", "perhabs", "maybe" or "could be". There is a level of doubt, chance, or probability involved.

Clearly, any person of reason and logic should know that 'sore throat' does not = STD. It's not a strawman to point out that indeed we should be aware of such. Nowhere did I say do something risky like have unprotected sex with prostitutes.

And sex with a girlfriend that a man has known a while, sees frequently, or lives with is different. That is a situation where a man can take more risk, because of the nature of the relationship and level of trust.

Don't hobby or provide when sick, folks.

This sounds like a command. Like telling people what they must or must not do. A command that many people can't hear nor will pay any attention to.

Many prostitutes have and will work while sick, because they need money. How sick that they are can be indeterminable. The customer can have no idea whatsoever or assume it's something minor to not be worried about.

So sex, while the prostitute is sick to some degree, is likely to happen. It's arguably best for the customer to be wary and choose protected condom sex or avoid certain types of sex.

 

[Wwanderer]

BBDFK (i.e., passionate kissing without a dental dam) is more likely to transmit most diseases than BB oral sex, fwiiw. Granted that these diseases are not generally considered STDs, but they are no less serious for being "ordinary" infections.

-Ww

 

[meiji]

It's not a strawman, on my part, if that's the point. There seems to be some confusion on what a strawman is or in the interpretation of what was quoted.

I'm not refuting the possibility of what Sudsy or Durg50 are saying, but simply emphasizing it's not the only reason possible.

Your sentence structure was such that you were contradicting them, even though you said the exact same thing.

This sounds like a command. Like telling people what they must or must not do.

Wow.

Many prostitutes have and will work while sick, because they need money. How sick that they are can be indeterminable. The customer can have no idea whatsoever or assume it's something minor to not be worried about.

Sure. but women that work when sick are going to doubly hurt their business, because if a woman provides while sick her energy level is going to be horrible and will get bad reviews, and if she gets her customers sick she's going to get bad reviews.

And to make sure that you don't confuse what I'm saying for a command, I'll make this a Public Service Announcement.

 

[Wwanderer]

Sure. but women that work when sick are going to doubly hurt their business, because if a woman provides while sick her energy level is going to be horrible and will get bad reviews, and if she gets her customers sick she's going to get bad reviews.

Back in the late '90s, an escort I knew well did this, against her normal practice, to avoid disappointing a generous regular customer. For her trouble she lost the customer and got a very bad review (the only one of her career as far as I am aware) which probably cost her additional dates.

Moreover she was pissed off for some reason when I later said "I told you so!" Go figure.

-Ww