Big Dicks

[Will]

I am not being a pig here, but life with a big dick can be abits shit. 75% of the woman I have seen cant handle ny girth, and it pains them to have FS. I have not yet found a girl that can fully deepthroat. I am not a fuxk pig, who doesnt care for the womans feelings, and cant have sex if a womens in pain. So most of the time I get hj.
I JUST WANT A WOMAN WHO WILL GO BALLS DEEP! I dont understand why guys compete for a massive dong. It gets you nowhere, and you cant get FS with alot of woman, for their fear of being made into a twin.

 

[DJV]

When you say big, you mean long and thick ?
When talking about thick, I guess some lube and prepup can help, if the girl is patient and not scared.

Maybe Deepthroat and Bigdicks can be correlated to yet another ancient art :
http://www.swordswallow.com/faq.php#trick
This could be a fun question to ask candidly on the specialized forums

EDIT : Someone apparently spent some time to think about this, and wrote a part-cryptic article on the subject :
http://www.thefrisky.com/2009-03-13/doin-it-with-dr-v-deep-throat-tips-from-a-sword-swallower1/
No allusion to the Tokyo scene though.

 

[Solong]

Japanese women can handle Western normal size to large penises.

However, the reasons for the issues often are:

1. A very pushed cultural myth in Japan (and Korea to a lesser extent) is that Japanese (Korean) women can't handle a large penis.

Many younger Japanese women are afflicted with this incorrect thinking. So often start freaking out at the sight of a penis bigger than 5 inches. This myth is pushed heavily in the Japanese media and through horror stories.

2. Many Japanese (Korean) guys also attempt to scare their women with "big penis" stories. Either that large penises are painful or that if she can handle a large penis, then she is a slut.

These stories said about foreign men, are somewhat similar to the scare tactics used by White men against Black men years ago. That is Blacks had huge cocks and White women should be afraid of them (clearly that tactic didn't work well).

These scary penis stories creates 2 odd mental conditions among Japanese women. The attempt to pretend they have the smallest vagina in the world or abnormal fear of larger than baby sized penises.

This fear about the size of their vagina includes pulling their thighs tightly together to pretend their vagina is tighter or being obsessed with their vagina getting too wet, thus appearing loose.

Often such Japanese women automatically associate large penis size with pain, even if the penis in question isn't actually that much bigger than average.

I've seen numerous examples of this odd Japanese style craziness in swinger clubs and among Japanese women that I've met. But there is a particular story that epitomizes it.

Met up with a Japanese swinger couple, where the woman was a very tall Japanese model of 177cm (I asked and = 5ft 10in). The Japanese woman was taller than me (5ft 9in/175cm) and her guy (172cm (5ft 7in). My girl at the time was 162cm (5ft 3in).

Her guy had a small penis, in which his lady was obviously used to. When they saw mine, they were clearly awed. I'm big, but not that big (almost 8 inches/ 7.8 inches or 19.7cm, and I was measured), but they acted like I was the reincarnation of John Holmes or Long Dong Silver.

The Japanese guy kept telling his girlfriend that my penis was going to hurt. At the same time he wanted to see me do her, he kept repeating that it will hurt to her. This was clearly a desire he had. Mind you, my kind of short Japanese girlfriend had no problem with my penis size.

So we swapped women and I did his tall girlfriend. He kept asking her, "Does it hurt?" So guess what she replied, "a bit". She then pretended that she was in so much pain that we had to stop. Keep in mind, this Japanese woman was TALLER than me.

Later, I met the same Japanese woman, without her boyfriend. We had sex, and she was cumming all over and wetting up the sheets. This "it hurt crap" from before was an act.

A lot of these "penis size" issues with women are mental or a matter of what they are used to. The vagina was made to handle penis and produce babies. So unless you are truly huge, women can handle it, particularly tall or wide hip women. There is ALWAYS women of any group, be they Asian, Black, or White that can handle very big penises.

 

[Kitty Carr]

Will... call me. That is all. You seriously have the best 'problem' in the world.

I don't agree with everything Solong said ('twas ever thus) but I do agree that the vagina is meant to stretch, and that Japanese men have an odd fascination with hearing 'ow ow it hurts' from the girl during sex. Part of the reason why I don't see Japanese clients - it turns me off.

You guys surely know this already, but 99% of female arousal is mental. Don't expect her to be able to take it, particularly if she's Asian and of small stature, without warming her up good and proper first. If you're really big, start with a vibrator or dildo in her. Get her to use a bullet vibrator on her clit as you slowly go inside her. Many women feel ashamed or slutty for using a vibrator during sex, or worry that the man will feel emasculated by it (ridiculous, but true). Make her sure that you're comfortable with her using it. Suggest it!

Doggy can actually be more comfortable for this than mish, as she can easily reach her clit and put her hand on your stomach to stop you if it hurts or you're going too fast.

 

[Solong]

@Kitty

I'm on your side on this. And a guy doesn't need to bring a dildo or vibrator to the party (which can be very awkward the first time a man and woman have sex). Just lick that vagina and clit good, and use 2 fingers (G-spot stimulation) to warm up that vagina. If you can get 3 fingers in their comfortably to rub her G-spot, even better.

Many Asian women can get sloppy wet once warmed up, so then handling larger than average sized penis won't be a problem.

Another thing is vaginal muscle control. The ability to both relax the vagina where she could handle a fist and then squeeze her vaginal muscles (NOT squeeze her thighs) so that she could handle a pinky finger. Such women don't have problems with penis sizes anywhere in the 95% range of human males.

 

[Kitty Carr]

Good point about the first time. I was more thinking of P4P encounters. I obviously need to get out more and have some more non-pro casual sex (seriously!).

Vaginal muscle control is a great point too. I certainly didn't know how to clench and relax on purpose when I was less experienced, so it is something that has to be practiced. Those eggs or balls that you put in there are great for that, but you can just as easily practice 'empty' sitting in your office chair. Which I am doing right now as I write about it.

 

[Solong]

Good point about the first time. I was more thinking of P4P encounters. I obviously need to get out more and have some more non-pro casual sex (seriously!).

Vaginal muscle control is a great point too. I certainly didn't know how to clench and relax on purpose when I was less experienced, so it is something that has to be practiced. Those eggs or balls that you put in there are great for that, but you can just as easily practice 'empty' sitting in your office chair. Which I am doing right now as I write about it.

You might consider the swinger clubs. It might be possible for you to "kill 2 birds with 1 stone" that way. Plus the conversations you will get into with both the men and women would be enlightening.

 

[Will]

Kitty, you are definately on my to do list when i am in Tokyo next

I am more girth than length. Lubed up the last girl i had couldnt get more than 1/2 in. Mouth and pussy. And the girl previous said "i dont like big, I like medium. Compliment or insult? i mean shit, its not an elephants trunk ffs!
That being said, some of the funniest reactions are, "Cannot do! No, too big!" all bug eyed....
How big is big though??

 

[Solong]

@Will

Bro, I think you need to pick tall and/or wide hip women. Would increase your odds.

EDIT- And also look for flexible women. Yoga, dancers, gymnasts... They also tend to be able to handle larger penis sizes better.

 

[Mister Roboto]

This blog was interesting. I have what Asian chicks consider a big dick, 8" erect, but kind of small flacid, which surprises many chicks. I was recently in the Phillipines doing a 3-way with two chicks and they started fighting over who would ride me. It turns out that the one with the tighter pussy was the one who got on top of me and I had the time of my life. I never figured out what they were arguing about, but when I return in a few months I will inquire. I forgot what it was like to have a tight pussy around my stick. Anyway, I have been with the ho's for many years on many continents and have yet to run into one who couldn't handle my stick. Out of 100, I would say maybe 5 or so didn't fit, but that was probably because they weren't aroused. From what I've read about the vagina, God made it to stretch, so these Asian scary stories are complete b.s.

 

[Wwanderer]

You guys surely know this already, but 99% of female arousal is mental. Don't expect her to be able to take it, particularly if she's Asian and of small stature, without warming her up good and proper first. If you're really big, start with a vibrator or dildo in her. Get her to use a bullet vibrator on her clit as you slowly go inside her. Many women feel ashamed or slutty for using a vibrator during sex, or worry that the man will feel emasculated by it (ridiculous, but true). Make her sure that you're comfortable with her using it. Suggest it!

Imo the first sentence above (which I've made bold) is so important and fundamental, that it can hardly be overstated. And in the context of this discussion, it has a crucial implication. Namely, there are women who find the idea of being stretched by a big dick intrinsically exciting and erotic; they find the whole notion of being filled up and pounded hard super-hot. There are other women that find exactly the same idea/image a huge turn-off, frightening and/or disgusting. In other words it is not, or not only, that they (mistakenly) believe that they could not accommodate a big dick, it is that the idea of doing so repulses them psychologically and aesthetically.

It is similar with toys and anal, and in those cases the wide range of mental responses applies to guys as well. There are women and men who love the idea of toys and who love the idea of using toys to turn their partners on and get them off; others find the whole notion sexually bland/sterile or worse. There are men and women who find the idea of receiving anal hot and those who find it disgusting, not because they think receiving anal is impossible for them personally (clearly it is possible) but just because they don't find the idea sexy or desirable at all.

Same with, say, bondage. It turns some people on to no end; for others it is almost totally neutral...just makes no difference to their experience; and for still others it is a turn-off. Again applies on both sides of the bed, so to speak.

My conclusion is that it is much more sensible to try to find partners who are turned on by what you want or have than to try to convince/convert those who are not. In other words, I am somewhat disagreeing with the second sentence in Kitty's post (which I have underlined); getting her warmed up "good and proper" will make it easier/possible for her to take a big dick, but it doesn't necessarily mean that she will enjoy it at all.

(This is basically the same point that I was making in the thread about sex and older guys.)

-Ww

 

[Nikkei Guy]

What is the proper way to measure? I don't consider myself big, but at fuzoku get the comment "ookii" sometimes. Do girls say this to everyone? BTW, I'm Asian American of small stature and build.

 

[Will]

Yeah, how big is big???

 

[Solong]

What is the proper way to measure? I don't consider myself big, but at fuzoku get the comment "ookii" sometimes. Do girls say this to everyone? BTW, I'm Asian American of small stature and build.

You measure from the top and from base to tip. Average is 5 in to 6 in (12.6 cm to 15.25 cm).

Above 15 centimeters is unusual in Northeast and Southeast Asia, which is where a lot of the surprise comes from. The further above 15 cm, the more shock.

Another point is many women in Japan are not used to deep penetration or may have never been deeply penetrated. It evidently takes various women a couple times to get used to or it's better if they had deep penetration in the past.

From experience, it may take a woman 2x or 3x on separate days to get used to. Particularly younger Japanese women. Possibly, there is adapative changes in the vagina. Women who are used to deep penetration, having her cervix touched by the penis, or cumming from deep penetration can develop a preference for longer penis. This can be why shorter penis men do preemptive attacks to attempt to have women be fearful of longer penis men. In Japan, this fear pushing is very very obvious

Also, for the first time, it's not so much that a longer penis hurts, but that she never felt the sensation. The mindset and how she interprets the feeling is very important.

Japanese women in particular, due to the constantly pushed propaganda and mantra that large penises hurt, can interpret deep penetration as pain. Their mind has been conditioned to think that way, where in contrast, women of other countries can WANT to feel deep penetration or are positively curious to know how it feels.

It's particularly weird, from my experience, to see this oddness with tall Japanese women. Many taller Japanese women can be trying to prove desparately hard that their vagina is extra small. So you can have short Japanese women that can easily handle large penises, while tall ( above 171cm) Japanese women act like they will die from penis bigger than 15 cm, which is highly illogical.

Many Japanese women will act surprised or say a larger penis hurts, in an often FAKE act to show their vagina is extra small or they are virgin-like. This can be a conscious attempt or at times something unconscious that got pushed into their mind. This is a type of child-ish mindset where various women think acting like they are bad at sex or acting like a teenager is a turn on to all men (many don't know how to adapt to different men with different thinking). I have been to many countries in Asia, and the size issue is particularly distinct in Japan more than other places.

 

[johnnyboy84]

In my experiences, most Japanese women I have met both in and out of the business have been fascinated by my penis. My hands are pretty big so I always felt it was small. Then I have had girls who were around my height 5'7"/170cm and with their hand around my cock, I felt like Peter North and there have been instances where the helmet can only get into their mouth. I wouldn't exactly call them scared, but they had concerns but they wanted to give it a try and felt curious what it could be like. On top with tight girls does hurt me a bit, but it pleases the women I have had to instant orgasm, but it was perfect for me either missionary and most especially doggy style.

 

[psd]

I was glad to read this. Back home no woman ever commented on the size of my dick ... but in Asia the reactions have been amazing (the reaction I get when I buy Big Boy condoms at the drug store is great). Some women are seriously scared, others laugh hysterically. One girl thought it was hilarious that I'd touch the back of her throat ... from below.

The smallest women I have fucked was about 146cm and that was fine. However I have "bottomed out" on taller women and apparently that really hurts.

 

[Wwanderer]

I have "bottomed out" on taller women and apparently that really hurts.

That is my experience too. The depth/length of her vagina is not all that well correlated with her height. In particular I know one woman who is a bit over 5' 10" whose cervix is no more than 5 inches inside her, probably a bit less.

-Ww

 

[Solong]

I think the perceived bottom of a woman's vagina can depend on how long it's been since she had sex and the previous size of the penis that she is used to. If she has only had 4 inches to 5 inches sized men or hadn't had sex in more than a month, then a 7 inch or more penis can easily hit bottom. However, after having sex a few times, the vagina adapts and opens up for deeper penetration.

When a vagina is warmed up and she is having sex regularly (4x or more a week) touching bottom is based on the true limit of the vagina.

 

[Wwanderer]

I think the perceived bottom of a woman's vagina can depend on how long it's been since she had sex and the previous size of the penis that she is used to. If she has only had 4 inches to 5 inches sized men or hadn't had sex in more than a month, then a 7 inch or more penis can easily hit bottom. However, after having sex a few times, the vagina adapts and opens up for deeper penetration.

When a vagina is warmed up and she is having sex regularly (4x or more a week) touching bottom is based on the true limit of the vagina.

I'm no expert on this topic (how women's vaginae respond to frequency of sex), but fwiiw the specific woman I mention above was at the time a VERY popular indie escort who was having sex with a wide variety of men very frequently, at least once per day on average, probably more, I'd guess. It was a big problem for her, perhaps needless to say.

-Ww

 

[GoldenDalton]

I have always been self- conscious when with small women. I'm only a little above the norm (U.S.) for length but I have an abnormally muscular one due to nature plus years of involuntary kegels. Add to that the fact that Im uncut and its pretty much guaranteed that less- than- stellar oral is in the cards. I dont even really enjoy oral sex for this reason. A half- hearted hesitant attempt kills the mood for me. An abnormally long one could be visually- stimulating to a woman. An extremely thick one can intimidate a woman, no matter the country, but especially in Japan. And while women like to compliment you on your penis size, and I've even had several tell me that they actually prefer intense girth to length, some people will say anything in the heat of the moment if you stimulate them correctly. But I know that they aren't seeing things totally clear. The last gf I had in Japan was hesitant and guarded about it even after months had passed.

My 2 Yen.

 

[psd]

I think the perceived bottom of a woman's vagina can depend on how long it's been since she had sex and the previous size of the penis that she is used to.

As Wwander said, I'm pretty sure the cervix doesn't change much in normal life.

 

[Solong]

As Wwander said, I'm pretty sure the cervix doesn't change much in normal life.

The length of the vagina to the cervix can change. The vagina can be more "shallow" in a woman that hasn't had sex in a long time or has a partner with a small penis.

When women have sex regularly or with men with a larger penis, the vagina can adapt accordingly. However, there are limits to it's adaptability, depending on the individual design of her vagina, vaginal muscles, her hip size, and height.

 

[psd]

The length of the vagina to the cervix can change. The vagina can be more "shallow" in a woman that hasn't had sex in a long time or has a partner with a small penis.

When women have sex regularly or with men with a larger penis, the vagina can adapt accordingly. However, there are limits to it's adaptability, depending on the individual design of her vagina, vaginal muscles, her hip size, and height.

You should either study female anatomy or shut the fuck up.

Your choice.

 

[Panda989]

Though i am not the biggest guy out there, i have run into a cervix on many many occasions. It isn't great for her, or me actually, nothing like smacking your cock into brick wall now is there....... I would say that for the most part if if im putting a girl into a seriously painful situation, i want to know. i know there is pleasurable pain, but there is a line that you can usually notice when its crossed.

For me it is off-putting when i am putting a women in serious pain, usually i will let her get into a place where she isn't in so much discomfort. I mean im going to get off no mater what really happens, so why make her cry?

i find i tend to enjoy the time better when tears aren't involved.

 

[Solong]

You should either study female anatomy or shut the fuck up.

Your choice.

Considering that I'm a swinger and just had sex with 4 women tonight (and on numerous occasions) anyone with experience at such numbers, will know to consider what I typed as valid.

I have sexed numerous women back to back, to make direct comparisons. I have talked to women in swinger circles about their vaginas, been taught by women about their vaginas, and took the time to learn about them.

And actually, I advise you to take your own advice and study LIVE female anatomy DIRECTLY.