hello
i met a lovely young lady who agreed to come out with me for dinner.. i am slightly worried about what happens at the end with the bill.. should i just cover it? (i dont really mind as a one off, but hope we can split it in future).. what is the norm?
Thanks tag
My method is based on past experience, on the woman's age (relative to me), and job.
1) If she is over 30 or my age, has a high paying job or swimming in money (rich husband or family), and is wearing expensive clothes and jewelry then she pays at least HALF.
You find out about her job and financial situation by talking to her. And if wearing expensive clothes and jewelry, I try to see if she will brag about it. Because such women, when it's time to pay bills, will usually pay half. Some are proud to do so.
If she appears to have lots of money, I will even let her pay for things. I've been the boy-toy for rich women before, so know how to slide into that role. Key is to identify how much money she has in comparison to yourself from conversations.
2) If she has no job, housewife, much younger than me, or is a regular college student that is very attractive then I pay.
Again, look at her fashion style and ask questions. Don't try to force money out of women that don't have it, as usually they will stop meeting you out of embarrassment.
3) Whenever in doubt or she is working, I attempt to have her pay 1/4 to 1/3.
You can even make her feel good about it, by stating you will pay most of the bill. Calculate the bill in advance.
Most women will feel they got the advantage and/or feel good about contributing somewhat.
Also, good idea to have lots of 1,000 yen bills whenever dating a new woman. A sneaky game some women play is pretend they have no smaller bills. Say she only has a 10,000 yen bill. By you having lots of smaller bills, you can take her 10,000 and give her back the appropriate change.
4) Don't argue or make awkward scenes, about money with women, and especially never give a sour face over money if you want sex or a relationship.
You make the attempt to collect money from women by telling her how much she should contribute and after figuring out her financial situation. You do the math. Bill is 10,000 yen, then you ask her to contribute 3,000 yen or whatever you think fair.
If she refuses to pay or pretends she doesn't have money, the man should SMILE, then pay if he wants sex later. "Don't worry, I got it ;-)"
If you are going to dump her and not trying for sex, demand half (which most women will do), then leave her right there. However, you should attempt to avoid such negativity when possible.
5) 1st date can be last date.
Don't think because you paid for everything, she will have sex, because some women purposely scam or abuse guys on dates.
Some women will act like they will meet you again, then never respond ever again and cut all contact. Japanese women are especially bad and notorious for doing this.
If a guy is worried about money or being taken advantage of for money by women, then try to get 1/3 from her. At least that way, you won't feel bad if you never see her again.