SESTA/FOSTA Law Passage > What it means for TAG?

Maxblack said:
Please dont confuse the teachings of Buddha with the implementation of a “religion” called Buddhism.
Actually this is probably true for any organization based on a reasonable idea.

People can fuck just about anything up.
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True for any religion, Jesus dated a sexworker
 
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Lars Lust said:
Is that possible? I just made a brief check and found two TAG independents with ProtonMail contact addresses. Do you say that they can only be contacted by clients also on ProtonMail?
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Of course you can send them mail from your Outlook, but it would defeat the purpose. That mail would remain in the clear (and stored a few times along the way) until it hits the Proton server in Switzerland, which then sends it encrypted to the addressee. On the return, it gets more complicated. As far as the provider goes, Protonmail of course beats Gmail hands down.
 
Maxblack said:
Actually this is probably true for any organization based on a reasonable idea.
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“And then, one Thursday, nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change, a girl sitting on her own in a small café in Rickmansworth suddenly realized what it was that had been going wrong all this time, and she finally knew how the world could be made a good and happy place. This time it was right, it would work, and no one would have to get nailed to anything.”

― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
 
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Babaram said:
@Mischa Maxwell , this means nothing to you, and I hope it means something to them. Whether the selling of sex is illegal depends on the country where you sell it.

However, a big part of your marketing is to protect your brand. Likewise, we need to make businrss continuation plans for when our suppliers are no more. If mischamaxwell.com is gone forever because squarespace gets in trouble with the American law, then you are screwed, and in this regard, that's not a good thing.


MAKE SURE YOU OWN MISCHAMAXWELL.COM AND THAT YOU CAN SWITCH MISCHAMAXWELL.COM AWAY FROM SQUARESPACE WITHOUT THEIR HELP AT ANY TIME.

Do you have an userid and password to the domain registration? Can you access and edit the mischamaxwell.com registration on Tucows?

If not, you are screwed when Squarespace is in trouble.

If yes, you can happily ignore the matter. If needed, you can host your site elsewhere, with no disruption of business.
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I have downloaded a wordpress backup of the site (excluding media) as well as the transfer key for the domain name.

I assume that the info above means that I do not own mischamaxwell.com? If it means that my real identity can’t be revealed by a Whois search, then I guess I have to be ok with that.
 
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I have downloaded a wordpress backup of the site (excluding media) as well as the transfer key for the domain name.

I assume that the info above means that I do not own mischamaxwell.com? If it means that my real identity can’t be revealed by a Whois search, then I guess I have to be ok with that.
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If you have the transfer key, then you own the domain, and you have access to the domain registration. Your identity is protected by Contact Privacy Inc. They don't own the domain.

You are good.

Please go back and check whether the site is locked. If not, please lock it. You can unlock it later.


Regular backups of the site are good.
 
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Mischa Maxwell said:
I have downloaded a wordpress backup of the site (excluding media) as well as the transfer key for the domain name.

I assume that the info above means that I do not own mischamaxwell.com? If it means that my real identity can’t be revealed by a Whois search, then I guess I have to be ok with that.
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The information above means they privatized the data so no one can see it. All my dot.com domains have the same thing, but I I do own them and can transfer them where ever I want. i don't think a transfer key will work in the future, I think they only work for a short time after they are generated.
 
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Did anyone mention Signal or Telegram yet? Didn't download it but might be something.
 
Another2011 said:
Did anyone mention Signal or Telegram yet? Didn't download it but might be something.
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Signal is an end-to-end SMS app that encrypts text messages while routing them through the Internet. It also can do secure voice.

Telegram is a secure chat app.

To be secure, both must be used on both ends. They are good to shield communication between 2 parties from surveillance.

The law discussed in this thread is not about communicating with providers. This is about disrupting providers' means of advertising by making Internet services liable for content placed by providers. The result is that these services get shut down without any law enforcement action. Because many services are U.S. based, or use .com domains under U.S. jurisdiction, the law affects providers the world over, even in places where P4P is completely legal.

Signal, Telegram, or Protonmail do not address this problem. Providers need to get away from U.S. based services, and from services with .com
 
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TheScientist said:
Fine by me. When that white man's burden gets too heavy on your shoulders, theres plenty of massage recommendations on the boars.
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If we are agreeing to disagree, I would have hoped we could do so in a mutually respectful way.

But if you wanna go the route of throwing shade via personal attacks, I'd have to wonder whether my arrogance (in your opinion) in judging the misogyny of religious traditions about which I'm not deeply expert (but know something) is greater or less than yours in contemptuously dismissing out of hand the stated opinions and feelings of large numbers of women who lead their religious lives within the tradition, including some who are trained and ordained clergy (rabbis and cantors) and some who have devoted distinguished professional careers to its scholarly study. To be clear, this is not to say that all such Jewish women would agree with me, but many would most definitely disagree with you on this topic. Are you really so confident that your understanding of and insights into *their* life experiences and how they have been treated are so superior to yours as to not even merit discussion or consideration?

I think we are better off just agreeing to disagree and leaving it there.

[And I'm pretty sure *boars* aren't kosher, whether male or female! :D ]

-Ww
 
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Maxblack said:
Please dont confuse the teachings of Buddha with the implementation of a “religion” called Buddhism.
Actually this is probably true for any organization based on a reasonable idea.

People can fuck just about anything up.
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A witty (Jewish) friend of mine once remarked to me that he thought Jesus Christ to be one of history’s greatest religious thinkers who had many wise and profound ideas about how people should live their lives and treat each other but that it was too bad that no one had ever given them a try.

-Ww
 
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impish said:
Well to be fair they didn't bring up the topic, they just won't shut up about it :-p
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This is a thread about a very invasive U.S. law with worldwide repercussions. It is not about whether one religion hates p4p more than the other. Interesting topic, but hopefully different thread.
 
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Babaram said:
You don't seem to understand how privacy protection works. They don't OWN your domain, they simply mask your identity.

You can own your domain and protect your identity with that service. They work like P.O. boxes
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Sorry I should have been more clear. There are services that will register and own the domain, and then you anonymously contract with them to run it as you desire.

This is separate from masking services whereby you own the domain but your personal information is obfuscated.
There is always a risk (especially with USA based companies) that they can be compelled to disclose your personal details if legally compelled via a warrant for example.
However if they dont have any info on you in the first place, there is no risk of your personal info getting out.
There IS a risk that the contractual obligation they agree to gets ignored and you lose control of your domain.

This is also why it is a good idea to use a hosting service that regulary scrubs server logs. Even if they get served a warrant, they have no data to disclose.
 
Babaram said:
Protonmail is end-to-end encryption, and as such, it requires that both sides use it. If customer and supplier both have it, by all means, use it. Won't work for casual comms.
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I would argue that even if one party isnt on proton it is still a potentially safer option than say gmail; they apparently do not share info nor look at email contents like Google, seem to be more focused on security and privacy, have an apprently well behaved app, etc.
Yes it lacks end to end encryption but it has many other apparent advantages that other mail services which also lack end to end encryption do not have.
 
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Maxblack said:
I would argue that even if one party isnt on proton it is still a potentially safer option than say gmail; they apparently do not share info nor look at email contents like Google, seem to be more focused on security and privacy, have an apprently well behaved app, etc.
Yes it lacks end to end encryption but it has many other apparent advantages that other mail services which also lack end to end encryption do not have.
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I encourage everybody to use the maximum of encryption possible, simply because it makes everybody safer, and it makes the trackers waste precious time and money. Also, it is much better to swim in a sea of encrypted messages than have your encrypted traffic stand out in an ocean of cleartext. By all means, use Protonmail for mail, use Signal for messages, use Telegram for chats, use HTTPS on the web, configure your Outlook to always use SSL/TLS. But be aware of their limitations.

If anyone would care, they could track you without much effort down to the room number of the love hotel, and the name of the booked escort, even if you clouded the acquisition of the latest hot babe in a 4096 bit key. Always be aware that you are subjected to invasive surveillance several magnitudes worse than in the darkest days of East Germany. There, they only had the technical capacity to listen to 4,000 phones at a time, and there was a chronic shortage of tapes. Now, everything is recorded, stored, and available for database queries and cross references that would blow our minds. If it's encrypted, they may not know what was said. But they always know who called (sent emails to, texted, chatted with) whom. Luckily, they usually don't care who you boink.

However, as repeatedly mentioned, all of this has no bearing on the topic of this thread. This is about websites that advertise sex, and they necessarily need to do it in the clear, no fancy encryption needed, or desired. The intent of this law is to bring these sites down by making operators responsible and liable for user-generated content. Now suddenly, no DOJ needs to take sex sites down anymore. Operators take them down by themselves, because suddenly, allowing sex workers to interact with clients is a federal crime that can cost 25 years in prison.

All the encryption of the world does not solve this problem.
 
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Babaram said:
If anyone would care, they could track you without much effort down to the room number of the love hotel, and the name of the booked escort
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That would be actually good as I normally don't ask their names so even if I have a good session it's hard to repeat.

And I am still wondering what was the number of that room with a full roof mirror.

Babaram said:
Guys, this is a sex site, not a place to debate religion.
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Unless you are worshipping pussy.
 
Man, watching the local scene through switter/fallout boards makes me wish I had a better job so I could be back in Japan/somewhere less USish about now. The likelihood of any action in the near future is zero for me.

See y'all in 2019. Maybe. :dead:
 
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