Stopped by police patrol around love hotels

Never been stopped for an ID check in over 20 years. Some people think I must be invisible.
 
I really wouldn't recommend that anyone take advice from debito.org about anything, except possibly how to be a completely witless douchebag. And if you think that being a witless douchebag is likely to help your relations with the cops then, sure, go right ahead.
 
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Tabanico said:
I really wouldn't recommend that anyone take advice from debito.org about anything, except possibly how to be a completely witless douchebag. And if you think that being a witless douchebag is likely to help your relations with the cops then, sure, go right ahead.
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Unfortunately I have to agree. I used to follow some of his writings like twenty years ago when he was not yet completely crazy. After a while I stopped and my only advice for anyone in his position would be to leave to another country, it is just sad to see someone who hates his life so much.

RIDER 00 said:
Is no one gonna complain about the "random" ID checks when you're on your bicycle? ... Foreigners are often the ones to get stopped on bicycles, but I've seen cops go after young kids and students too.
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My own experience is on the contrary; they have stopped plenty of Japanese all around me but always leave me alone. I am guessing the coppers take one look and the decide they don't get paid enough to deal with a big ugly drunk foreigner in the middle of the night.
 
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jhingy567 said:
what do you look like?
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It really doesnt matter. I've experienced this wearing expensive suits standing in front of the kuyakusho and wearing clothes where I looked like I'd just come down from the hills of Afghanistan. Skin color doesnt seem to matter either.

TAG Manager said:
looks like they were targeting smaller scooters.
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Yeah they do that during the traffic safety periods. There are a few laws which apply only to 49cc scooters which are frankly hard to remember or judge if they apply at that particular place.

TAG Manager said:
(which I fully support since they drive like maniacs...)
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Honestly motorcyclists and bicycles are much worse. Motorcyclists because of lane splitting or just riding right in the blind spot of cars and trucks and bicyclists because they all seem to think that no concepts of traffic safety or law apply to them. That plus the general poor understanding of physical surroundings of the Japanese.
 
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TheScientist said:
Honestly motorcyclists and bicycles are much worse. Motorcyclists because of lane splitting or just riding right in the blind spot of cars and trucks and bicyclists because they all seem to think that no concepts of traffic safety or law apply to them. That plus the general poor understanding of physical surroundings of the Japanese.
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No we’re not. We assume nobody can see us. We never count on people to look or use their mirrors... There are some bad riders, but those are the ones that get stopped.
 
Tabanico said:
I really wouldn't recommend that anyone take advice from debito.org about anything, except possibly how to be a completely witless douchebag. And if you think that being a witless douchebag is likely to help your relations with the cops then, sure, go right ahead.
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Wow, you're a real hater. He has some unbiased pages on his site about what is legal and illegal within the confines of Japanese law, so it's useful information to know. For instance, it's completely illegal for cops to require Japanese nationals to provide ID unless they have broken a law. In the case of random checks, the police are only asking to see the Japanese national's ID. The smart ones who know their human rights refuse to do even that.

Anyway, don't know why your response had to attack me and debito, but that's your own prerogative.
 
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MikeH said:
Unfortunately I have to agree. I used to follow some of his writings like twenty years ago when he was not yet completely crazy. After a while I stopped and my only advice for anyone in his position would be to leave to another country, it is just sad to see someone who hates his life so much.



My own experience is on the contrary; they have stopped plenty of Japanese all around me but always leave me alone. I am guessing the coppers take one look and the decide they don't get paid enough to deal with a big ugly drunk foreigner in the middle of the night.
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Okay, I'm not getting into a debate with you again about your own world views and how fortunate life has been to you, but let me just reiterate that debito.org has some unbiased and useful information about legal issues in Japan. No harm in brushing up on your human rights and understanding how a lot of people, even the police, try to trample on them every day. Just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen to others.
 
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Just a general observation, but given the level of responses and experience sharing on this thread, I think it's safe to say that a lot of people have been affected or a least have an interest in random police inspections in Japan. Even those who say they don't give two shits about the topic have pretty passionate responses both for and against this kind of action, so can't we all just agree that having to deal with the police when you've done nothing wrong sucks? Even if it hasn't happened to you personally, because it has happened to others you find yourself reading about it on this thread and responding --- so it isn't something that you can completely ignore.

Once again, I find myself babbling...
 
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RIDER 00 said:
debito.org has some unbiased and useful information about legal issues in Japan
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this is 100% true, he writes some things that are useful. but its also true that he seems like a very angry man who wants to believe the world is against him just because something bad happened to him or his kids or something at an onsen once. Then he keeps trying to get into various rubbish hostess clubs that have 'Japanese only' written on the door and argues with them about the fact he is Japanese because he has a Japanese passport but they still don't let him in and its all a bit sad.

Here is an article he wrote where he talks about the fact that he drove like an idiot, and he admits it (speeding in residential areas and running red lights) but he still manages to make some weird criticisms about the police and Japan.

again, both Rider and MikeH are correct according to this article - It was very useful for me learning about the point system for licenses, but Debit also comes across as kind of a dick.

http://www.debito.org/speeding.html

Ive met him in person btw, nice guy. Looks like the comic book guy from the Simpsons (or at least he did when I met him in like 2009) he just goes on rants online. bit like me.
 
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jhingy567 said:
Haha. Great line to break the ice!
You sound like an experienced escort already. :D
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I am a very experienced hostess. I have on and off about four years of hostessing experience. Escorting just increased the amount of intimacy I have with my clients. :)
 
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Durg50 said:
Debit also comes across as kind of a dick.
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I know him. He comes across as a dick because he is a dick. He's a narcissist with a persecution complex, constantly looking for an argument.
 
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Haven't been stopped yet, but have heard may a story about random checks. Most of the stories i've heard seem to happen in busy areas/red lights (roppongi, shinjuku etc). Maybe that's why i haven't experienced it yet as I try to avoid those areas.
 
TheScientist said:
Seems that decades ago he was only mildly nuts, now he's not even seeing batshit crazy in the rear view mirror any more.
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Not that I'm a fan of Debito or even know the guy, but if you read his life story he's gone through a divorce, not having visitation rights to his kids because Japan only allows single custody, being estranged from his father who won't even let him see his kids when they're visiting him the U.S., and being discriminated against because he's a white guy with Japanese citizenship, I can see why he may be salty and sour. (That kinda sounds like a yummy combination)

Anyway, you may not like him, but at least have some compassion. We're not all blessed like you are, Scientist. However, in that South Park episode, the argument over who's science was right did ruin the world...
 
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TAG Manager said:
They’ve finally started busting bicycle riders who bust trough traffic and crossing signals.
And those with no lights, I’ve lost count on the ones I’ve almost hit at night because I can’t see them.
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YES. Almost flattened a fucker Sunday night as he blew through an intersection I was already halfway turning through.
Really, really thankful I was going slow and paying attention since he sure as hell wasn't.

In my own mind's eye I look suspicious as hell and am constantly in the butt end of Kabukicho/Dogenzaka but I've only been searched once and it was actually in a parking garage in Shibuya. Fortunately I had just unloaded EVERYTHING I was carrying (including my own jacket and backpack) so the car was completely empty and I only had my wallet and keys, etc on hand. They still dug through eeeeeverything I had on me and seemed disappointed when they came up with jack shit.
 
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Back on the main topic, there is utterly nothing to be ashamed of / afraid of for this in Japan, I've told police blunt out what I was doing when stopped in love hotel areas.
Deli-health is not a crime.
 
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Durg50 said:
Then he keeps trying to get into various rubbish hostess clubs that have 'Japanese only' written on the door and argues with them about the fact he is Japanese because he has a Japanese passport but they still don't let him in and its all a bit sad.
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I think the best one I saw was when he tried to get into a health shop which said Japanese only and they refused. He then produced his Japanese passport and brandished it and the door man said, oh, come on in then.

He then decided not to enter and somehow blamed it on racism again.
 
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RIDER 00 said:
Okay, I'm not getting into a debate with you again about your own world views and how fortunate life has been to you
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Good, because in general life has been fortunate, and those times when it hasn't I have tried to move on.

but let me just reiterate that debito.org has some unbiased and useful information about legal issues in Japan.
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Yes, it totally has and I have also used his site to brush up on things legal and not. But still I would believe he would be much happier if he didn't live in Japan, he seems to hate the country at least as much as he thinks the country hates him.

I don't know the guy except through his own writings but still I get the feeling that he likes to act provocatively to put it mildly. I haven't yet lived in any country where it would have been a good idea to piss off the police on purpose.
 
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I had never heard of him and gave him the benefit of the doubt until I got the first article where he published a shop's address and telephone number and encouraged his readers to "voice their complaints." But of course he said we should do it "calmly" so everything is OK.

Because everyone is calm on the internet.
 
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