Stopped by police patrol around love hotels

MikeH said:
I think the best one I saw was when he tried to get into a health shop which said Japanese only and they refused. He then produced his Japanese passport and brandished it and the door man said, oh, come on in then.

He then decided not to enter and somehow blamed it on racism again.
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Now thats stupid. How can he complain if they were actually willing to let him in after proving he has Japanese citizenship?
 
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Debito is pretty extreme of course, but I occasionally run into other members of the expat community (in person, not online, I mean) who are like him in that they have gone to great trouble and effort to make a life for themselves in Japan but who seem to loathe and be offended by nearly everything about the place, its culture and its people.

A mystery to me. Some folks seem to seek out unhappiness and anger... :confused::banghead:

-Ww
 
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The real game-changer in my attitude and level of comfort in living here came when I completely owned my decision to be here. I came back here of my own free will after I left the military and knew what I was getting into. Every day that I stay is my decision to do so.

Yes, I have built my career and my life here so it would be very difficult to move to anywhere - but that doesn't mean I am required to stay.

When I hear old-timers (some who haven't been here as long as I have) complain I generally tune them out.
 
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I get that there need to be voices of dissent for change to take place and Japan is by no means a perfect country but when it just becomes bellyaching or needless shit-stirring you do have to wonder what exactly is keeping people from just leaving.

Obviously family, work, financial responsibilities, etc are factors but part of being an adult is taking control of your circumstances and guiding your own life...
 
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BIPSY said:
part of being an adult is taking control of your circumstances and guiding your own life...
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I need a superlike for this post. In every man's life there comes the point when you cannot blame everything on your shitty childhood and bad parents anymore but have to take the control of your own life.
 
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Wwanderer said:
Debito is pretty extreme of course, but I occasionally run into other members of the expat community (in person, not online, I mean) who are like him in that they have gone to great trouble and effort to make a life for themselves in Japan but who seem to loathe and be offended by nearly everything about the place, its culture and its people.

A mystery to me. Some folks seem to seek out unhappiness and anger... :confused::banghead:

-Ww
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Maybe they enjoy complaining? It seems to give some people pleasure
 
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BIPSY said:
part of being an adult is taking control of your circumstances and guiding your own life...
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This is so true. I was very unhappy when i was younger, but since comming of age i’ve made some drastical changes to my life that i could not when depending on my parents...
I’ve been loving life ever since, even the bumpy parts.
 
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I guess I'm one of those who actually hates being an adult and the responsibilities that come with it.
Sure, there's more freedom and money now, but I wish i could relive the happy, carefree times of childhood.
The daily grind of white-collar work is also kinda depressing.
 
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MikeH said:
I need a superlike for this post. In every man's life there comes the point when you cannot blame everything on your shitty childhood and bad parents anymore but have to take the control of your own life.
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Just one question, Mike-sensei (or Mike-shisho). I'm all for agreeing with that statement. I don't want to sound sexist and say that it's the "manly" thing to do, but a lot of the Hokuto no Ken philosophy coincides with that way of thinking.

But, what happens if your desire to control YOUR destiny conflicts with the plans I have for MY destiny? Does your paradigm approve the use of various means to resolve the situation, including, but not exclusive to, force, coercion, cheating, bribing, competition, negotiation, or intentionally creating a stalemate? The King of Fists, otherwise known as Roah, believes that anyone who gets in the way of his destiny is giving him an open invitation to let them experience the pleasures of pressure point obliteration. (Not that I endorse that kind of thing)

What I'm getting at is that, aren't there things that are totally out of your control or would require dedicating over 90% of your entire life to resolving it?

I guess the answer is for people to just suck it up and move on in that situation according to this philosophy, but I can understand why some people do not or can not accept that. Sometimes, trying to control your own life means you need to rattle the cages of other people, which, of course, is unpopular with the masses.
 
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TheScientist said:
oh dear, someone hasn't studied the issue of freewill vs predetermination...
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Freewill: Doesn't even exist in the purest form. Even if I'm free to think and act how I want, someone or some institution will set limits on what I can do. I cannot achieve this unless I become immortal and live in an unlimited resource environment. (Or I'm just plan happy being shit on all the time)

Predetermination: An outside force has determined my life path for me and I am powerless to change it. No matter what I do, it will be just to achieve my destiny. There may be the illusion that I have freewill or that I am in control of my life, but from an outsider, I'm just a program following my binary codes.

Good enough? Did I pass the test?

Anyway, what I'm saying is that illusion or not, freewill or not, you should not be talking in such extremes or absolutes. At the end of the day, each person wants to live how they want, but only a portion of us are lucky enough to achieve a minimum level of satisfaction. There are many who are not or can never be satisfied. It might seem like a bother that they fight for what they want, but I can understand why they do it. Heck, I fight for what I want every day too (or at least try to get off my lazy ass and do that), but I do it in my own way. I don't want someone else to tell me how I should fight or if the fight's worth fighting for in the first place. That's for me to experience and find out in the end.

See? Everything comes full circle.
 
RIDER 00 said:
Just one question, Mike-sensei (or Mike-shisho). I'm all for agreeing with that statement. I don't want to sound sexist and say that it's the "manly" thing to do, but a lot of the Hokuto no Ken philosophy coincides with that way of thinking.

But, what happens if your desire to control YOUR destiny conflicts with the plans I have for MY destiny? Does your paradigm approve the use of various means to resolve the situation, including, but not exclusive to, force, coercion, cheating, bribing, competition, negotiation, or intentionally creating a stalemate? The King of Fists, otherwise known as Roah, believes that anyone who gets in the way of his destiny is giving him an open invitation to let them experience the pleasures of pressure point obliteration. (Not that I endorse that kind of thing)

What I'm getting at is that, aren't there things that are totally out of your control or would require dedicating over 90% of your entire life to resolving it?

I guess the answer is for people to just suck it up and move on in that situation according to this philosophy, but I can understand why some people do not or can not accept that. Sometimes, trying to control your own life means you need to rattle the cages of other people, which, of course, is unpopular with the masses.
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Hm, my personal way to to just avoid judgemental people, stuck up moral ideas and laws that aren’t really seriously enforced.
Just keep out of the way of people who have conflicting interests with you as much as possible, and hope that people also try to do the same for you (in my experience, Japanese people are great at avoiding conflict).

Of course sometimes you have to suck it up and settle.
 
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User#8628 said:
Hm, my personal way to to just avoid judgemental people, stuck up moral ideas and laws that aren’t really seriously enforced.
Just keep out of the way of people who have conflicting interests with you as much as possible, and hope that people also try to do the same for you (in my experience, Japanese people are great at avoiding conflict).

Of course sometimes you have to suck it up and settle.
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Ah, Alice! You are clever.

I didn't list another important option in my list.

"Avoid"

Thanks for that. Cheers.
 
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I had an appointment in Shinjuku on Friday night and the hotel was nearby the Kabukicho area. I can confirm this, there were patrols but the entire area is so chaotic that they only stopped the visibly drunk people or young boys who were fighting. I had four different sizes of condoms in my purse and the first excuse that came to my mind was a "condom themed birthday party" in case they searched me. :D Well, nothing happened.

Safety measures: Delete any trace of SW from your phone if you use apps like Line or Whatsapp. Very low risk but they may check your phone. Don't leave emails or Tag conversations open. Carry your passport or residence card on you at all times. Lately, Police has been searching for drugs or traces of human trafficking. P4P especially conducted in English has very low risk.
 
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Simonka said:
I had an appointment in Shinjuku on Friday night and the hotel was nearby the Kabukicho area. I can confirm this, there were patrols but the entire area is so chaotic that they only stopped the visibly drunk people or young boys who were fighting. I had four different sizes of condom in my purse and the first excuse that came to my mind was a "condom themed birthday party" in case they searched me. :D Well, nothing happened.
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Yup, it's pretty rare for police to stop you in a crowd like the Kabukicho one unless you really stand out. (I'm sure your profile helps you to stand out in other non-threatening ways, though;))

It's great they didn't ask to go through your purse.
 
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RIDER 00 said:
unless you really stand out.
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Yeah, a Caucasian woman who is 1.78 meters tall and wearing heels, in Japan. No big deal :D My conservative black jacket does its job but I still stick out. The touts chased me tho and I had to jump into a taxi to avoid them.

The only people who approached me were a couple of drunk Japanese oji-san who asked me if I was French (?) and about a dozen of touts who greeted me with a Bonjour.
 
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Simonka said:
Yeah, a Caucasian woman who is 1.78 meters tall and wearing heels, in Japan. No big deal :D My conservative black jacket does its job but I still stick out. The touts chased me tho and I had to jump into a taxi to avoid them.

The only people who approached me were a couple of drunk Japanese oji-san who asked me if I was French (?) and about a dozen of touts who greeted me with a Bonjour.
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Hazards that come with the territory, I guess. I've only seen the Kabukicho patrol go after drunk men or guys who look like they're homeless or have drugs/weapons on their possession.

The other day there was this huge group of white tourists in the paid parking lot near Hotel Pasha. It must have been their meeting spot, but why on Earth would a tour group want to go through the red light district? I know that Chinese tourists go through the area all the time taking pictures of the soaplands and host bar entrances, etc., but geez!
 
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RIDER 00 said:
Hazards that come with the territory, I guess. I've only seen the Kabukicho patrol go after drunk men or guys who look like they're homeless or have drugs/weapons on their possession.

The other day there was this huge group of white tourists in the paid parking lot near Hotel Pasha. It must have been their meeting spot, but why on Earth would a tour group want to go through the red light district? I know that Chinese tourists go through the area all the time taking pictures of the soaplands and host bar entrances, etc., but geez!
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Oh I had a staring contest with a group of white tourists when I was distancing myself from the touts in the safety of a taxi seat. There was traffic jam and we awkwardly stared at each other for about five seconds. I felt like both parties knew what each other were doing.
 
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TheScientist said:
saw sex isn't against the law. condoms are sold everywhere. not illegal to have.



the JCOPS cant do that. Against the law.
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This is a warning I got from my hostess club manager who had inside information. So maybe this is something for hostess club girls? Or maybe they check it once they arrest you?

Luckily I've never been detained.
 
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Simonka said:
This is a warning I got from my hostess club manager who had inside information. So maybe this is something for hostess club girls?
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Basically, what Scientist said is true, but if the cops have a decent amount of info to suspect you of a crime (which they need to be able to prove), they can take you down to the police box for questioning and do an inspection of your belongings. If, in that instance, some incriminating evidence of P4P shows up, you could be in some trouble.

But, as you said, it's all hard to prove anyway, so very low risk.

After all, the concept of an escort is that the client's paying to spend time with her. The sex only happens because the escort likes the client.
 
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