You are conflating two situations I consider very different, street and club. Afaik VERY few women walk down the street or take trains or go into a Starbucks for the purpose of meeting men. When you approach women in those environments you are imposing your agenda and goals on them. However, in a club or bar, particularly certain types of bars, it is reasonable to suppose that she is there for the purpose of meeting men or at the very least can reasonably expect that men will be approaching her. I do NOT think that men approaching women in the latter type of venue is objectionable at all. I think there are some other reasonable objections to what
@Babaram brilliantly described as a "paint-by-numbers approach" in those settings, but here we are mostly discussing the question of bothering/annoying women.
Absolutely there are women, such as
@User#8628 (who, btw, is about as accepting and nonjudgmental a person as you could ever hope to meet...a trait even more incredibly attractive than her appearance, imo), who enjoy and appreciate good approaches. Equally absolutely there are those who do not;
@User#16452 is the local TAG lady to balance against Alice's views. But we need not restrict ourselves to the hand full of women who are active on TAG threads; I have heard numerous women report their pleasure in being hit on in public places and numerous other women complain about it, sometimes bitterly. There are also surely people who appreciate being handed advertisements in the street and some who happily welcome religious proselytizers into their homes too. But that does not, imo, make it good behavior for such folks to knowingly bother and annoy those who don't like it.
-Ww
