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Why Are Escorts So Expensive In Japan?

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When I lived in london I used to pop off for a hot toasty and a bonk on my lunch break.

Now here in Tokyo I have to be clever with my money and choose carefully and probably best just to do it once a month.
I mean paying for sex never cures the fever, you always feel empty afterwards anyway, women dont love sex like men do, they just want money.

But what the hell has driven the Tokyo market up so much, its not like your getting more for your money, in fact with the Japanese women, sure theyre cute and have great bodies, but they dont really get into it.

anyone got an idea why?
 
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If the same budget allowed you so much more activity in London, then you are probably spending it more upscale in Tokyo.
 
If the same budget allowed you so much more activity in London, then you are probably spending it more upscale in Tokyo.
Bollocks, thats not the case at all.
3 hours in london is the equivalents of 1 hour in Tokyo.
In london at least they pretended they were having fun.
 
First of all, don't slutshame. That's not cool. If men can love sex, women can love it too.

Second of all, I'm not sure if you're talking about independent escorts, agency escorts, deli-health girls, etc.. because you didn't explain your budget.. but I don't think you understand how much work it can actually be, especially for an indie. I'm not talking about behind closed doors.

My rates are similar to the rates of the agency I used to work for.. but switching to independent has been both stressful and expensive.

I've worked on my website for the past 2 weeks. Spent about 15,000yen on a pro plan. Spent another 15,000 for a 5-year contract on the domain. Spent at least 20,000 on lingerie and makeup the past week. Spent at least 25,000 on sex toys, condoms, and massage oils. I have another photoshoot coming up in March, and that'll be 35,000 for 2 hours. Then I have to get ready to invest in paid ads soon.

I don't know about the other beautiful providers here, but I'm pretty sure they've also invested some/a lot of money on their appearance, websites, advertising, etc.

Don't get upset just because you can't get a girl to lower her rates for you. Some people can afford it, some people can't.
 

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I won't get into the 'sluts' part of your post.

For pricing tho, it's simply economics 101: supply and demand. The marketplace will settle at prices that the marketplace can sustain. If it really were too expensive, prices would drop.
 
I hope the moderators change the title of this post. From what I know about the ladies on this site, 'high class escorts' would be a better label.

I've changed it to a more generic term; since the OP didn't specify his budget.
 
Slut, someone who sleeps with lots of men for money.Lets not pretend its something else.
 
First of all, don't slutshame. That's not cool. If men can love sex, women can love it too.

Second of all, I'm not sure if you're talking about independent escorts, agency escorts, deli-health girls, etc.. because you didn't explain your budget.. but I don't think you understand how much work it can actually be, especially for an indie. I'm not talking about behind closed doors.

My rates are similar to the rates of the agency I used to work for.. but switching to independent has been both stressful and expensive.

I've worked on my website for the past 2 weeks. Spent about 15,000yen on a pro plan. Spent another 15,000 for a 5-year contract on the domain. Spent at least 20,000 on lingerie and makeup the past week. Spent at least 25,000 on sex toys, condoms, and massage oils. I have another photoshoot coming up in March, and that'll be 35,000 for 2 hours. Then I have to get ready to invest in paid ads soon.

I don't know about the other beautiful providers here, but I'm pretty sure they've also invested some/a lot of money on their appearance, websites, advertising, etc.

Don't get upset just because you can't get a girl to lower her rates for you. Some people can afford it, some people can't.

Women love sex when they're going to get something materialistic out of it.
Your expenses are nothing compared to setting up other types of business.
 
Slut, someone who sleeps with lots of men for money.Lets not pretend its something else.

And let's be polite, please use a more respectful term. Thank you. We're all adults and mature here, correct?
 
Why are you even using p4p if you think it's a 'rip off'?
I have a penis, you wouldn't understand.
I dont have time to play the dating game, work wont allow it.
i was looking at escort directories last night and just got bummed to know that i would be leading myself into another disappointing situation.
 
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How should I phrase it?
Kind young women who rips us off with her Vagina?

Oh my, obviously, you're not happy with what services you're getting.
But, there's no one holding a gun to your head to pay for said services.
There are plenty of women to meet for free, that aren't trying to use their vagina to 'rip you off'.
 
Oh my, obviously, you're not happy with what services you're getting.
But, there's no one holding a gun to your head to pay for said services.
There are plenty of women to meet for free, that aren't trying to use their vagina to 'rip you off'.

Your right, i got out of the wrong side of bed this morning.
I apologize.
 
Firstly, if you don’t to be paying over the top rates for every interaction with a woman, I would address your attitude towards women in general when you are in a bad mood. Calling escorts, “sluts” is hardly a great start, and because they choose to do the profession does not mean that they choose to give up the right to any respect and dignity. Also, telling people “bollocks” when they respond to your thread may not encourage people to offer you any constructive advice.

Unless your attitude changes, I seriously can’t see people wanting to interact with you. Read the board, see how people interact with each other and try and keep your interactions within the acceptable social norms, not be another “oh we have one of those guys” who’s every post gets reported and they are deemed unwelcome.
My advice, take it or leave it.

For your original statement backing up the term you used
slang disapproving: a woman who has sexual relationships with a lot of men without any emotional involvement.

Nothing to do with monetary transaction, although if you really believe women only enjoy sex when they are getting something materialistic out of it then I guess we have a member of the MGTOW club (read up on them, I did, lol)..

As per your original point, why is London cheaper for escorts than Tokyo.

I can see some of what you are saying, but also having lived there I think it’s definitely on par with Tokyo, but completely different city in a completely different continent.

Incall
London has an open borders policy with the rest of Europe, there are many people from many different countries that all go to the UK seeking to make their fortune. The risk of deportation for crimes is minimal (unless major crimes) so going to the UK from one of the poorer European countries and renting one of the flats can earn the girls wages far more than would be possible back home. This is the same in all major European capitals where the economy is doing well, England (soho), Holland (Amsterdam RLD), Germany(frauenhausers) all will get you a lower end “quick bang” for around 1万 yen. Trying to find a woman for less than that and you will struggle, but also be delving into the territory of women you’d maybe not want to sleep with (ok, maybe 50 euros outside the UK is normal). Try getting a genuine Japanese escort in London, virtually impossible, the prices they charge are premium to say the least, if you can find one (and you know the difference between a Chinese, Korean pretending to be Japanese) and she is genuine Japanese it will cost you upwards of £300 an hour (at least). In-call in the UK, for the average girl not coming from a poorer country is around the £100 an hour.

Now compare this to Tokyo, with its far more restrictive immigration policy (although some undesirables still manage to get through). Here you are dealing with Japanese who have grown up in the economy, know the value of things and aren’t here to make money “to send home” while they live on a shoestring. There is no cheaper country flooding the market, therefore the market rates remain stable at a price point that the typical Japanese man going the P4P route has no problem affording. The non-Asian women who choose to do this are pretty much in the minority (incall is definitely risky for visa issues) and people will pay a premium because of this. The non-Japanese Asian women (Korean. Chinese) are the cheaper end of the market (similar to the UK poorer countries) and these can be found for the equivalent of your UK low cost escorts (1万 yen is typical of KH and Chinese in-call). Most in-call in Tokyo, if you are aiming at average and Japanese is around the 1.5-2万 mark.

Outcall
Again, the cost of an outcall escort in Tokyo is on par with London.

London Adultwork lists most London average escort rates at around the £100-150 an hour, (2-3万) you can pick up all different kinds of women at this rate, but the lower end of the scale (2万) typically only do in-call and you pay a premium to have them come to your hotel, In my opinion, having an escort do out-call in London would typically cost you about 3万 an hour.

Tokyo you can easily find agencies that will provide women similar (if not cheaper) than the London rate. Last time I dipped into the P4P market I was paying 12k for DH, then tipping the girl between 5-10k for everything goes), so 22k max for cute little Japanese women to have a nice hour with.

The only thing I will point out, is that for some reason the agency/FL price points are switched in the UK and Japan. In that in the UK you generally pay the higher price if the girl is provided by an agency, whereas in Japan the premium is generally for the independents, but I never really did any looking around for non agency women in Japan so maybe Japanese women charge less if you find them on backpage etc.

For the price you are paying, 3万 you can have a good time whichever city you are in, you can go lower in both, you can go higher in both. Pay what you are comfortable with but unless you leave the bad attitude behind, perhaps the sex shops in AKB would offer better value for money.

TL:DR, London and Tokyo are pretty much exactly the same

I lived and worked in London for quite a while, whilst I was never one for nipping out to the soho shops during lunch hours when I came to Tokyo I actually thought the cost was a lot lower, so I guess it's all about individual perceptions.
 
I have a penis, you wouldn't understand.

I disagree. I think we understand completely. You have a penis, no money, no time, no social skills and no understanding of women or biology. None of this is anybody's fault but your own.
By your own admission, you think the women here are hot and yet you have nothing positive to say about being able to have sex with them? I refer you back to my first post in this thread, slightly edited to reflect that it ain't a joke this time

plenty of daily flights back to London
 
I think the OP could try to re-examine his attitude towards women and sex. Generally what you give to others is what you get back, so if your life is a string of shitty experiences where you feel ripped off, you are probably the source of that misery not the environment around you. If you are rude and careless towards you escort because you pay her and you think you have the right to be, she is probably not inclined to give you anything special either. Probably she is thinking, oh, one of those guys, lets lie here, pretend im somewhere else, and get it over with to take home the money. If you try being a bit nicer and more considerate about who she is and what she likes, you might actually have more fun when you are having sex with her. Just give it some thought, it applies not only to this topic but to every aspect of your life.