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Why Are Escorts So Expensive In Japan?

by "taste aside", I meant is it clean and safe the way it is in Japan ?

At the same price level, it is VASTLY cleaner and safer in Japan than in the US and other most Western countries, imo.

I know there is unclean and unsafe everywhere but if we compare by price standards ?

The worst/cheapest places I have seen in Japan are not that bad by international standards, imo.

I'd be particularly interested to hear @DireWolf98 's opinion on this as well.

-Ww
 
At the same price level, it is VASTLY cleaner and safer in Japan than in the US and other most Western countries, imo.



The worst/cheapest places I have seen in Japan are not that bad by international standards, imo.

I'd be particularly interested to hear @DireWolf98 's opinion on this as well.

-Ww
Remember when we talked about this and i found out that in America its not always common to shower before paid sex.. (When together)
 
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At the same price level, it is VASTLY cleaner and safer in Japan than in the US and other most Western countries, imo.

The worst/cheapest places I have seen in Japan are not that bad by international standards, imo.

I'd be particularly interested to hear @DireWolf98 's opinion on this as well.

-Ww
@Wwanderer - My friend, I will try do justice to your request.

The cost/expense of 風俗 in Japan and related issues.

This issue has been discussed before, on other message boards. Some participants in the discussion were well-intentioned guys calmly asking natural questions and others were provincial myopic guys who engaged in knee-jerk over-reactions. The former gained an understanding: the latter didn't ...

I will try to be relatively thorough without being too long-winded; and I won't call upon my economist friends in 兜町. LOL

In Japan, almost everything relates to Real Estate. The cost of Real Estate is high, therefore, rent is high.

Shop owners have to pay rent and the girls working in shops have to pay rent for their apartments (unless they still live with their parents). This also affects manufacturers and distributors, as rent or real estate taxes or other related costs will be higher.

Japan imports most of its oil and natural gas. This impacts the costs for transportation, utilities and manufactured goods.

All of these factors contribute to higher costs for everything, including the pursuit of This Hobby Of Ours.

Another factor that can't be discounted is education level: Japanese girls score higher on standardized math and science courses than their counterparts in the rest of G7 and the world. Therefore, it's not apples-to-apples if you compare them to girls from Issan, Oakland or The Bronx.

I have met a large number of 風俗 girls in Tokyo who were using their "day jobs" to try to fund the launch of their own business; Ronin trying to re-take university entrance exams; struggling models/actresses; and students trying to save extra money for various reasons.

At one time, Roppongi Madonna Mansion Health seemed to be on a roll in terms of recruiting incredible talent, including:

1) One favorite was a one semon gaku student, Maya, who bore a strong resemblance to Japanese AV star Madoka Ozawa, except that Maya has better teeth, longer hair and larger breasts. Maya was studying what could be best described as "zen" or "traditional Japanese landscaping" -- rock gardens and related aesthetic creations. She was sweet, skillful and she had reasonably-good musical taste - she liked Eric Clapton. I digress, she provided excellent service, but she resigned immediately after she graduated.

2) Another favorite was Julie. She had unbelievable CBJ skills (and I am not a big fan of CBJs). She worked in 風俗 as extra part-time work to save money for her 成人の日 (Seijin no Hi - Coming of Age Day) kimono. She resigned the week after 成人の日.

3) Yet another favorite was Misaki. She was a struggling actress who was starting to get some breaks, including TV commercials and swimsuit modeling jobs. She auditioned (unsuccessfully) for both the annual 50-week-long NHK samurai drama and the movie, "The Last Samurai." She needed to supplement her income until acting generated enough cash flow. She was definitely perfect for bikini modeling - she has a great slender body, like the J-Girls one sees on Tumblr. She eventually quit and moved to Los Angeles.

Another major factor in this situation is personal taste. My vegetarian friends will have absolutely no interest in my picks for the best barbecue joints in Kansas City; or engaging in the Kansas City versus Texas versus North Carolina debate. No amount of explanations or stories will sway their interest in favor of meat. Similarly, I often quote the saying, "Some people like The Grateful Dead and some people like the Allman Brothers."

The same holds true for girls - I like J-Girls for reasons too numerous to mention here.

Therefore, my excellent 風俗 experiences in Tokyo encouraged to seek more.

My first 風俗 experience in Tokyo was at Roppongi Krystal Fashion Health with 蛍 (ほたる - Hotaru - Firefly) - a mocha-skinned Okinawan spinner/firecracker who was awesome. She perfect short hair, a gorgeous face and she made drinking oolong cha look erotic. I went back for repeat visits until she left the shop and then I discovered other excellent girls there.

That's my partial answer on this subject.
 
When working as an escort in Japan, the rate I charge is simply my normal Australian rate converted into JPY. The longer you book, the bigger the discount.

My prices are at the lower end of the Australian market. The OP needs to check out the Australian market. He'll be up for ¥85k per hour in some cases. And that's in a country that allows prostitution.

While I think JP rates are rational, I still have not found reasons to AUS ones.
To me it's like there's a bubble in this local economy, leading to every escort advertizing themselves as " [french words] high-class" (yet keeping a cute countryside accent).
At some point I wondered if they needed to cover for an expensive car to visit their clients, or if the requirements/expectations for lingerie/outfits are high.
Does anyone have a clue please ?
 
While I think JP rates are rational, I still have not found reasons to AUS ones.
To me it's like there's a bubble in this local economy, leading to every escort advertizing themselves as " [french words] high-class" (yet keeping a cute countryside accent).
At some point I wondered if they needed to cover for an expensive car to visit their clients, or if the requirements/expectations for lingerie/outfits are high.
Does anyone have a clue please ?
from what I know salaries are higher in Australia compared to Japan. I know many japanese and Korean people who go to Autralia to make some money (fruit picking jobs mainly) and learn english by the same occasion. So I'm not surprised the p4p is also charged more in Australia.
 
While I think JP rates are rational, I still have not found reasons to AUS ones.
To me it's like there's a bubble in this local economy, leading to every escort advertizing themselves as " [french words] high-class" (yet keeping a cute countryside accent).
At some point I wondered if they needed to cover for an expensive car to visit their clients, or if the requirements/expectations for lingerie/outfits are high.
Does anyone have a clue please ?
I heard that the demand is very high in Australia (lots of guys wanna get a go).
Mostly girls and shops don't price themself as much as what "they think they are worth" but rather at a comfortable balance of how many clients they want to meet and how much money it will make them (cheaper prices is more clients, but if there are many willing clients its not always neccessary to charge bottom prices).

I feel like people from Australia and the bigger cities in America get entousiastic when they see Japan and the prices and all the options (especially for Americans who are used to strict laws and enforcements).
Europeans tend to get sour but the prices in Europe seem really out of line with the high living rate while the girls there seem more serious about saving for the future than the Japanese girls (at least they dont blow all their money in host clubs and on Vuitton bags). Its mainly because its so easy for East European girls to travel to some west european countries though. (Not because legalization and stuff because that isn't an issue for Australia.)
 
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My 2 cents.

1. You get what you pay for. P4P is cheaper here, but I wouldn't risk any because a) vastly less attractive, b) sees a lot of high risk clients with associated disease chances, c) no regard for clients needs.

2. Show some class and treat each woman like a human being. You may be paying, but that doesn't mean you own them. They don't have to put up with an asshole, no matter how much cash he flashes if they really don't want to. You should simply be grateful that they're there offering the service in the first place.
 
My 2 cents.

1. You get what you pay for. P4P is cheaper here, but I wouldn't risk any because a) vastly less attractive, b) sees a lot of high risk clients with associated disease chances, c) no regard for clients needs.

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@TenguPhule - Would you please clarify your comments.

Are you talking about Japan?

If so, P4P is cheaper, the girls are less attractive and they have no regard for clients?

That doesn't sound like Japan.
 
@Wwanderer - My friend, I will try do justice to your request.

The cost/expense of 風俗 in Japan and related issues.

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Whoa! My Dire pal, I somehow missed this generous and insightful response to my request for your views despite the fact that you tagged me in it. I'm not sure what happened; I've had some pretty distracted (by "real" life) days and weeks recently. My apologies.

Anyway, you laid it out very nicely, why p4p usually costs more and why it is usually worth more in Japan, and I pretty much agree with you on all points and have had similar specific personal experiences/partners to those you mention.

Thanks for putting in the effort!

-Ww
 
Talking about Hawaii P4P. Buyer beware applies here so very very much.
As this thread is about Japan, it would have been close to impossible to guess that you were referring to Hawaii.

Well, I guess that I will avoid practicing Our Hobby in Hawaii. Thanks for the warning!
 
Waikiki and Ala Moana. With the added bonus that the HPD will bust you if you're in the wrong place at night.
I've seen many girls in Waikiki & Ala Moana never had any problems. If you're referrring to certain places in Waikiki or Ala Moana it's the drug areas along the ala wai that might get you rolled up by Hawaii 5.0.
 
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What is the average price for an escort delivery in Tokyo?
Depends on a lot of factors like how much time you want, how much Japanese you speak and if you want fs or not.

If you speak Japanese and dont definitely need fs then about 10.000~15.000 for one hour i think.
If you need an agency with english speaking staff then about 20.000~30.000. This could be with fs (agency AM) but also without (this).

Think around for an average attractive japanese girl 20.000 generally.
 
I remember someone in this forum has said, if you think a commodity/service is too expensive, that only means you are NOT the target customer.
There is a forum in the US, to which I belong, where one of the rules is: don't criticize someone if they have fun in a different price range.
I very very much agree.
Like i personally always say: if the price is unreasonable, the business/girl would feel the suffering by not pulling enough customers. If they pull a lot of customers and don't use too many weird tricks its only fair. No girl wants more customers than her body and mental can handle.
 
I remember someone in this forum has said, if you think a commodity/service is too expensive, that only means you are NOT the target customer.

That is a very bold statement. Are dvds just not for me because I think they are ridiculously overpriced in Japan compared to probably anywhere in the world, but at least compared to Europe. Tsutaya on the other hand I'd ridiculously cheap.
I would of course never question any particular escorts pricing, but questioning why on a general level a particular service or product is much more/less expensive is imho a valid question.

That being said I don't think that Japan is generally expensive for adult related fun. Some services are and the upper range of services is probably more developed than at least in Europe.

Otherwise @User#8628 observation is obviously spot on. If there is so much "expensive" business, there has definitely to be a market. Otherwise the business would adjust or thin out.
 
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