Why Viagra Won't Fix Your Sex Life

[Solong]

Just interjecting in this debate which seems to be "Viagra vs natural " kind of discussion.
Of course, if your diet, exercise, life style can avoid leading you to erectile dysfunction, that is preferable. But when you are already a bit old, have already some diabetes, and just need a good erection in the coming hours because you have a date for that evening, I am not sure eating garlic and tomatoes will help much, while viagra does work within one hour...

But like any effective drug, viagra have "undesirably" side effects, which are randomly occurring, meaning that some people have some, others have others, and others have none... In my case, which somewhat defies the purpose, it makes ejaculation more difficult. But on balance, with viagra, I can have a relatively secure erection, while without, I find it difficult to sustain it, while still managing to achieve ejaculation... To each his own, but as often, the reality is not just black and white

A problem with using Viagra, is not getting to the underlying problems of why a guy may feel or needs to use it. If you ever visit any Erectile Dysfunction Forums, some guys on there will also talk about this. And it's interesting to see how those selling pharmaceutical solutions will heavily troll and attempt to drown out any alternatives. Unnatural pharmaceutical drugs can have unintended and damaging effects, that might not become known until years after the fact.

The point of choosing effective natural remedies or those that would clearly work with how a man's body naturally gets an erection (increasing Nitric Oxide production- like L-Citrullene...), are they can be a part of restoring your health or living healthier.

The other part is the psychological issues, like performance anxiety. As a swinger, I strongly understand and had to confront this issue. A man that can get himself to perform naturally under pressure, can be mentally stronger one than one who needs drugs. And this greater control, can be helpful in how he interacts with women.

Sometimes, it's the interaction between the man and the woman he's having sex with. Some women are way more helpful and skilled, where others make stress or any problems worse. Understanding the issue, can help men choose better female sexual partners or help men on how to guide women on what works best for them sexually; what turns them on or makes them erect.

Now with that typed, some men do have major health or psychological problems that are complicated to fix. Viagra might be the easiest solution in those situations. I'm not saying you can't use it, but it might be worth it to look into alternatives. People should be wary of the pharmaceutical industry's quick fixes, when nature might have a better or almost as good answer, that's more naturally compatible with your body.

 

[Solong]

Eat well. Do some running/jogging, stop masturbating and cut the stress will help a lot...

Maturation is a pandora's box issue. There are multiple sides to it.

Some people are anti-masturbation, for bias religious, odd traditional beliefs, or are sexually repressed. So the recommendation can be to not help improve sexual performance, but part of their odd beliefs.

Masturbation can actually help sexual performance, because it speeds up and regulates sperm production, as well as ENCOURAGE finding a partner for sex. You want to do, what you are fantasizing about. It can be like shadow-boxing to a Boxer. It's helping them get ready.

I would say that masturbation would only be negative, hours before or the same day that you will meet a woman. In addition, if you are not having sex with your partner, because you prefer or are exhausted from masturbation. And that might be indicative of relationship issues.

Also, for women, masturbation is a major issue. Women who don't masturbate, tend to be more sexually repressed and can make for bad sexual partners. I'm not saying always, but I have noticed a very strong correlation. The type that feels ashamed about sex, their body, their vagina, etc... To include no sexual fantasies, avoiding sex, laying in the bed like "dead fish", very clueless and clumsy about sex, has never cum, etc... I would strongly encourage women to masturbate and get in touch with their body and sexuality.

 

[calippo]

I am NOT anti-masturbation; being trapped in a no-love marriage I am a serious masturbation athlete. However, I find that this is not good for many reasons. First of which is expectations; I am used to get pleasure by exploring my fantasies and it's very hard to have the same experiences in flesh, needless to say with a one night stand girl. If I quit masturbating for at least two weeks, it's much easier to enjoy the experience.

 

[Solong]

I am NOT anti-masturbation; being trapped in a no-love marriage I am a serious masturbation athlete. However, I find that this is not good for many reasons. First of which is expectations; I am used to get pleasure by exploring my fantasies and it's very hard to have the same experiences in flesh, needless to say with a one night stand girl. If I quit masturbating for at least two weeks, it's much easier to enjoy the experience.

There is no reason for the average guy to not masturbate for 2 weeks, to save himself for sex. The average healthy guy should be ready for action, 1 or 2 days prior.

And waiting so long, like weeks, can also backfire. The guy being so horny, he acts desperate or ejaculates too quickly, if he gets sex. There is even a school of thought, where the guy should masturbate on the day of going on a date, so he will think logically and act calm.

 

[User#8628]

There is no reason for the average guy to not masturbate for 2 weeks, to save himself for sex. The average healthy guy should be ready for action, 1 or 2 days prior.

And waiting so long, like weeks, can also backfire. The guy being so horny, he acts desperate or ejaculates too quickly, if he gets sex. There is even a school of thought, where the guy should masturbate on the day of going on a date, so he will think logically and act calm.

Lol that happened in "there is something about Mary".
Does anyone recall the part where she has sperm in her hair? ^^

 

[calippo]

I do ahaha!
Unfortunately I have the opposite problem, and equally frustrating. It takes waaay too long to cum, and I mean it. Many times I just have to give up as the situation becomes akward. I was circumncised as a teenager because my foreskin was too tight, and I have a very unsensible penis

 

[roots reggae]

Surprised that beet juice has not been discussed. This may be an urban legend, hard to find reliable studies, but one doctor writes;

"Beet juice: Romans drank beet juice two hours before engaging in sex. It also heightens your bedroom performance by raising nitric oxide levels. The beet’s ability to improve circulation has been documented in numerous studies."

http://www.alsearsmd.com/2015/03/nutrients-for-your-manhood/

I bought beet juice powder and have been using for a month now. A bit of an earthy taste, but more palpable with a splash of apple juice. Its substantial health benefits are well-documented, however, so no harm done.

Warning:

If accidentally spilled on a wall, it may be impossible to remove and in high concentrations may result in a "small hole in the wall."

 

[User#8628]

I do ahaha!
Unfortunately I have the opposite problem, and equally frustrating. It takes waaay too long to cum, and I mean it. Many times I just have to give up as the situation becomes akward. I was circumncised as a teenager because my foreskin was too tight, and I have a very unsensible penis

I never thought much about it but Japanese guys usually finish way faster than many foreign clients and another girl pointed out it might be because of the foreskin. Also that many foreigners are faster and rougher.

 

[User#16452]

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[Wwanderer]

Removing the foreskin takes away around 50% of the pleasure. It's genital mutilation, as is labiaplasty.

Amazing! They can measure someone's pleasure during sex (or at any other time) sufficiently quantitatively to make percentages meaningful!?

-Ww

 

[User#8628]

Amazing! They can measure someone's pleasure during sex (or at any other time) sufficiently quantitatively to make percentages meaningful!?

-Ww

Is was a joke maybe but she means the sensitivity, which can easily be measured i think.

 

[User#16452]

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[Wwanderer]

Is was a joke maybe but she means the sensitivity, which can easily be measured i think.

My post was a joke too...thus the " ". I sometimes hassle/tease her about using numbers in basically meaningless ways, similar to numerical ratings in escort reviews.

-Ww

 

[User#16452]

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[User#8628]

Mmm, he's just salty because he's snipped.

Haha 笑

 

[Wwanderer]

I mean 50% of the pleasure nerves. On a side note, it is possible to measure muscle contractions during orgasm.

Fwiiw, fMRI activity levels in the brain's "pleasure center" (nucleus accumbens) is probably the most plausible correlate with experienced pleasure that can currently be measured...but never mind!

-Ww

 

[RandomTokyoGuy]

I never thought much about it but Japanese guys usually finish way faster than many foreign clients and another girl pointed out it might be because of the foreskin. Also that many foreigners are faster and rougher.

I understand that for business reasons you may think differently, but it generally is appreciated by women if it takes longer. Indeed I try not to come too fast, but I also even in pvp try to think that it's not just a job for the woman, but something she enjoys if not even receives pleasure from

 

[User#16452]

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[Solong]

Amazing! They can measure someone's pleasure during sex (or at any other time) sufficiently quantitatively to make percentages meaningful!?

-Ww

I remember watching some YouTube videos where the subject of circumcision and foreskins were debated.

Being circumcised has advantages and disadvantages. Like the penis is supposedly easier to keep clean and it might help men to last a bit longer during sex. Where a male who is natural and foreskin intact, produces a bit more lubrication in that area to make penetration into the vagina a bit easier. Also, as an older male, it might be easier to get an erection because the penis is a bit more sensitive.

Also, circumcised males still enjoy sex, so I'm not sure if the difference is as dramatic as 50%. Like if you never had something, would you miss it? And does the body and brain adapt to compensate for the difference?

 

[RandomTokyoGuy]

@User#16452
I think 15minutes is already way above average in any part of the world. While google finds different numbers, I found nothing even touching two digits. There are a lot of sources however indicating that a significant share of men finish within two minutes.
It could very well be that we have completely different things on mind when speaking about short or prolonged intercourse.
Besides that I obviously can't judge when it gets uncomfortable for a woman, as I'm not a woman. I may therefore be wrong, but I guess it's not so much the time, but the intensity. When I have very long intercourse, which at times may exceed 15minutes, it's almost guaranteed to involve periods of very slow movements.

Anyways, exceeding 15minutes is not a goal, but I could probably usually manage to finish within two minutes if I wanted. I honestly doubt that most women mind extending this a bit

As for finishing of yourself, that's indeed very dangerous. Could get one aroused very quickly again

 

[Wwanderer]

I remember watching some YouTube videos where the subject of circumcision and foreskins were debated.

Being circumcised has advantages and disadvantages. Like the penis is supposedly easier to keep clean and it might help men to last a bit longer during sex. Where a male who is natural and foreskin intact, produces a bit more lubrication in that area to make penetration into the vagina a bit easier. Also, as an older male, it might be easier to get an erection because the penis is a bit more sensitive.

Emphasis added. I agree.

It has long seemed to me that people get a lot more exercised over this topic than is actually warranted by any evidence, and personally I've only paid discussions/debates about it (which are very common) slight attention, but it seems unlikely to me that there is any decisive difference, else it would not be controversial.

A piece of semi-anecdotal/semi-data evidence: Back in my hippie days when I lived (for a summer) on a commune with a very tight group of males and females involved in a complex and ever changing set of relationships, a couple of the women got into a big discussion/debate about which was better for the woman. One of them was (probably still is) Jewish and insisted that circumcised was better; the other wasn't and held the opposite view. Anyway, to make a long story short, they agreed to do a "poll" of the other women in the group plus the women in various groups of people passing through and crashing with us for anywhere from overnight to a couple of weeks. (There was a constant flux of them.) They would both talk to the women together (mostly anyway) and with no guys around and ask which they liked better. The result was that a moderate majority preferred circumcised lovers, but if you only counted the non-Jewish women, it was about equal. I don't recall which preference was in the non-Jewish majority. Of course, some of the women said that they couldn't tell much difference too.

WALDT basically.

Also, circumcised males still enjoy sex, so I'm not sure if the difference is as dramatic as 50%. Like if you never had something, would you miss it? And does the body and brain adapt to compensate for the difference?

Emphasis again added.

I don't know if there is any evidence about the body compensating, but from what we now know pretty definitively about the way neural nets work, the answer is almost certainly "yes" for the brain; it is ordinary behavior of both observed/natural neural nets and of theoretical/computational ones. In other words, it is quite likely that the brain does compensate, probably almost completely for as little difference as 50% in nerve signals. Presumably this is why there are no dramatic or prevalent differences in the sexuality of circumcised and "natural" men.

-Ww

 

[Wwanderer]

@User#16452
I think 15minutes is already way above average in any part of the world. While google finds different numbers, I found nothing even touching two digits. There are a lot of sources however indicating that a significant share of men finish within two minutes.

In my experience (from long ago when I had a lot more options in ways to have sex than I do now), the duration women prefer varies A LOT from one woman to another and, for that matter, quite a bit from one occasion to another for the same woman. The only real regularity I recall ever noticing is that women who like intercourse for extended periods also like to change positions multiple times, but this is pretty much common sense obvious and would apply to almost all repetitive physical activities of any sort. Muscles tire and start to ache the longer you move them over-and-over doing the same thing.

It could very well be that we have completely different things on mind when speaking about short or prolonged intercourse.

LOL! Like the famous parallel therapy scene in ANNIE HALL.

-Ww

 

[Solong]

In my experience (from long ago when I had a lot more options in ways to have sex than I do now), the duration women prefer varies A LOT from one woman to another and, for that matter, quite a bit from one occasion to another for the same woman. The only real regularity I recall ever noticing is that women who like intercourse for extended periods also like to change positions multiple times, but this is pretty much common sense obvious and would apply to almost all repetitive physical activities of any sort. Muscles tire and start to ache the longer you move them over-and-over doing the same thing.

-Ww

Absolutely agree with this. Different women, have different levels of endurance and skill. And this is also easy to see at swinger clubs and parties.

 

[User#8628]

I understand that for business reasons you may think differently, but it generally is appreciated by women if it takes longer. Indeed I try not to come too fast, but I also even in pvp try to think that it's not just a job for the woman, but something she enjoys if not even receives pleasure from

I totally agree with User#16452 on this.
I enjoy sex but too long, too hard and too fast is overrated and hurts.

Either for work or private.

I can enjoy both quickies and longer sessions but being pounded hard for over 15 minutes is usually not so enjoyable.

 

[User#8628]

@User#16452
I think 15minutes is already way above average in any part of the world. While google finds different numbers, I found nothing even touching two digits. There are a lot of sources however indicating that a significant share of men finish within two minutes.
It could very well be that we have completely different things on mind when speaking about short or prolonged intercourse.
Besides that I obviously can't judge when it gets uncomfortable for a woman, as I'm not a woman. I may therefore be wrong, but I guess it's not so much the time, but the intensity. When I have very long intercourse, which at times may exceed 15minutes, it's almost guaranteed to involve periods of very slow movements.

Anyways, exceeding 15minutes is not a goal, but I could probably usually manage to finish within two minutes if I wanted. I honestly doubt that most women mind extending this a bit

As for finishing of yourself, that's indeed very dangerous. Could get one aroused very quickly again

I certainly don't mind longer than 2 minutes. But for the two minutes finishers there are things like after play and round two.

I've met some guys that, either because of condoms or foreskin or other issues couldn't finish and just kept going.
It's amazing how much energy those guys have.
I had a 3p with a guy like that once and he kept going until both me and my friend were sore. Then when we finally called it a day (no orgasm from his side) his member was also all red and sore and had a cut. He didn't realize until we stopped, haha.