Why Viagra Won't Fix Your Sex Life

[Wwanderer]

The only people who defend circumcision are cut themselves.

Note that this is somewhat circular in that an uncircumsized man who thought circumcision was superior would likely soon become a circumcised one!

-Ww

 

[calippo]

I've also found circumcised men to struggle the most coming to climax in my own experiences.

I'm cut, or better put, I unfortunately needed to be cut. I agree with what you said.

 

[Wwanderer]

OK show me the neurological study which supports this claim.

One type of non-neurological data which would be interesting and perhaps persuasive would be to ask sexually active adult men who undergo circumcision (typically for medical reasons or as a part of religious conversion) to compare their experience before and after. I have never seen or heard of such a study but do know of two such cases personally/anecdotally; both said it made little difference. One said that he was concerned that it would cause him to cum too quickly (my guess is that he might have already had a premature ejaculation problem) but that it didn't.

We wouldn't want to actually allow evidence into one of the standard internet arguments now would we?

Heaven forbid!

The odd thing to me about this one is that it is such a big issue to some people and no issue at all to others, to most I suspect.

-Ww

 

[User#16452]

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[TheScientist]

I have never seen or heard of such a study but do know of two such cases personally/anecdotally; both said it made little difference.

I also know some anecdotal cases like that, men who grew up in the USSR and then later "got the snip" for religious reasons after they had moved to Israel. All of em said pretty much exactly the same as the men you spoke to. One of these guys, his wife was there too. She said she was also worried before the procedure but she had no issue with the before or after either.

I think the thing is no one is going to do such a study as it would be difficult to arrange enough of a before and after subject set due to the relative scarcity of men who are snipped as adults and the need to time the questions an appropriate period of before and after to avoid the rose colored glasses of memory.

 

[TheScientist]

Do keep in mind that half the posts I make these days are made with exasperation or an intent to mildly troll. Don't take it personally.

I'll take it as "you got nothin" and consider this silly argument done.

 

[User#16452]

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[hkAlone]

As none of the existing studies seem to get a scientific consensus, we should design/sponsor a new experiment that would settle the question for good.
Let's record 1000 guys (500 circumcised/500 uncircumcised) having sex with a willing escort (the same to avoid any bias). With a 4K camera and a good sound record, we should be able to estimate the actual pleasure from facial expressions intensity and roars level.
They could also fill a questionnaire to compare their subjective experiences.

 

[Wwanderer]

the same to avoid any bias

Love it!

Obviously it should be done on a "double blind" basis as well.

-Ww

 

[MikeH]

Love it!

Obviously it should be done on a "double blind" basis as well.

Maybe we could do it so that one guy has sex 500 times with the escort, then gets circumcised and has sex with her again 500 times. Any volunteers?

That could be the only way I would even consider getting under the knife.

 

[TheScientist]

Maybe we could do it so that one guy has sex 500 times with the escort, then gets circumcised and has sex with her again 500 times. Any volunteers?

That could be the only way I would even consider getting under the knife.

But would you survive the experiment?

 

[dreams]

Take it as you will, but do not assume that non-participation is always involuntary. There is countless information available online to support my view. I just do not care to spend the next few hours quoting it for your sole approval.

Statement like that are indeed a good way to end a debate. "I'll stick to my views which are better than yours" and "I won't bother to support my statements, because you are too stupid..."kind of thing.. Everyone with opposite views to yours could make the same statement. But you said it, you are "mildtrolling" aren't you? So we are being warned.

 

[dreams]

One type of non-neurological data which would be interesting and perhaps persuasive would be to ask sexually active adult men who undergo circumcision (typically for medical reasons or as a part of religious conversion) to compare their experience before and after. I have never seen or heard of such a study but do know of two such cases personally/anecdotally; both said it made little difference. One said that he was concerned that it would cause him to cum too quickly (my guess is that he might have already had a premature ejaculation problem) but that it didn't.



Heaven forbid!

The odd thing to me about this one is that it is such a big issue to some people and no issue at all to others, to most I suspect.

-Ww

Same experience with many "cut" friends . (I am getting used to use this term, now that I am told it is friendly, although I would argue that the derogatory (or not) aspect of a comment is better appreciated by those receiving it than those delivering it...)
To get back to the great idea exposed above to conduct clinical trials, one big issue is to control for the factors which can affect the main variable, i.e intensity of sexual pleasure ( a very subjective parameter) and time to cum (which can be objectively measured). I can tell you that I have much more difficulties to cum today than when I was younger, and, obviously that has nothing to do with circumcsion... So we would need, say 500 cut and 500 uncut men of the same age, with the same past sexual life, having sex with the same escort etc.

 

[TheScientist]

having sex with the same escort etc.

Besides the issue of control variables with the males, you'd need women who were consistently a good lay and I don't think such a woman has existed ever.

 

[roots reggae]

Yup. I was making a joke.

Another Irony Alert brought to you by TAG's resident irony spotter:

 

[User#16452]

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[rick]

Doesn't anyone have the opposite problem?

Sometimes you are done but it just won't go down by itself.

That hat needs to be longer, but you get my drift.

 

[User#6541]

Doesn't anyone have the opposite problem?

Sometimes you are done but it just won't go down by itself.

That hat needs to be longer, but you get my drift.

Only when 'eye of the tiger' is playing in background....

 

[TheScientist]

Sometimes you are done but it just won't go down by itself.

Happened much more often when I was a bit younger. Was fun with certain lovers who were happy to go a second time quickly.

 

[Kegger]

Doesn't anyone have the opposite problem?

Sometimes you are done but it just won't go down by itself.

That hat needs to be longer, but you get my drift.

Are you talking about your normal state, or with a blue pill induced erection?

 

[rick]

Are you talking about your normal state, or with a blue pill induced erection?

Natural... it doesn't happen all the time, though it sure can be annoying when it does. Usually occurs after an extended period of being erect

 

[dreams]

Let's leave this here, ok?

Yes indeed.
Have fun wherever you go, no bad feelings.

 

[DocMcStuffins]

Natural... it doesn't happen all the time, though it sure can be annoying when it does. Usually occurs after an extended period of being erect

How extended are we talking about?

 

[rick]

How extended are we talking about?

Not movie marathon length or anything...

I mean, beyond the usual "let's work towards making each other come in a reasonable amount of time", if the point of sex is "let's feel good for as long as we can" then it tends to stay up for a while.

But it really depends on the situation...