Why Viagra Won't Fix Your Sex Life

[dreams]

A problem with using Viagra, is not getting to the underlying problems of why a guy may feel or needs to use it. If you ever visit any Erectile Dysfunction Forums, some guys on there will also talk about this. And it's interesting to see how those selling pharmaceutical solutions will heavily troll and attempt to drown out any alternatives. Unnatural pharmaceutical drugs can have unintended and damaging effects, that might not become known until years after the fact.

The point of choosing effective natural remedies or those that would clearly work with how a man's body naturally gets an erection (increasing Nitric Oxide production- like L-Citrullene...), are they can be a part of restoring your health or living healthier.

The other part is the psychological issues, like performance anxiety. As a swinger, I strongly understand and had to confront this issue. A man that can get himself to perform naturally under pressure, can be mentally stronger one than one who needs drugs. And this greater control, can be helpful in how he interacts with women.

Sometimes, it's the interaction between the man and the woman he's having sex with. Some women are way more helpful and skilled, where others make stress or any problems worse. Understanding the issue, can help men choose better female sexual partners or help men on how to guide women on what works best for them sexually; what turns them on or makes them erect.

Now with that typed, some men do have major health or psychological problems that are complicated to fix. Viagra might be the easiest solution in those situations. I'm not saying you can't use it, but it might be worth it to look into alternatives. People should be wary of the pharmaceutical industry's quick fixes, when nature might have a better or almost as good answer, that's more naturally compatible with your body.

I am afraid, my friend, you are falling into the usual misconception that everything "natural" is good. Many "natural" products are actually dangerous, and even more so because they are not submitted to the same regulations that pharma products. Nature produces 1000 times more poisons than human will ever be able to create...Digitalin is a natural product that can kll you in a few minutes if overdosed. Mushrooms produce highly toxic products. Many women who considered themselves "constipated" use "natural" products which destroy their colon (sene for example), all that claiming: "It's natural".. It is but lead them straight to drastic colon removal surgery....

I have been involved with the discovery of viagra, at an age when I did not need it at all.. As you probably all know, it was developed as an hypotensive, and when adm mistered, as all new drugs should, to young healthy volunteers, they all came back smiling...

And also, the usual skepticism about the Pharma industry comes often from those of us lucky enough to be healthy, but is definitively not shared by those who are not not, ask them , cancer patients, HIV, meningitis, gastric ulcers etc..

Having said that, I will repeat that nothing is ever just black or white, yes, of course, the pharma is a business and wants to make money, but I prefer a business making money treating people that those building arms, or even making fast cars in which people can kill themselves..

Back to Viagra: Erectile dysfunction (ED) is a global term which groups several different conditions which require different approaches, and yes, of course, we all know about the fear of failure etc... Nobody denies the brain-sex relationship, (no more, actually than the brain-gut relationship...) Viagra, paradoxically perhaps, can help even the so-called "psychological" ED by providing confidence. And for those with pathologic cause, such as diabetes, atherosclerosis, Viagra is a perfectly fine treatment,
with a perfectibility defined mechanism of action, well studied, with now more than 15 years of experience. None of the "natural" therapies you advise have been studied the way Viagra has been, and nobody knows whether such therapy may not be detrimental on a long run...

To each his own, but my dates should be reassured that I will be able to perform when I meet them, and I don't think they worry whether this is thanks to Viagra, bananas or else...For sure, they will prefer that is is not garlic!!

Just my opinion(s)....

 

[Wwanderer]

I am afraid, my friend, you are falling into the usual misconception that everything "natural" is good. Many "natural" products are actually dangerous, and even more so because they are not submitted to the same regulations that pharma products. Nature produces 1000 times more poisons than human will ever be able to create...

Indeed so! For example, check out the totally natural substances called aflatoxins:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aflatoxin

They are among the most potent carcinogens known to exist (once held the record I believe) and are found frequently in many sorts of natural foods (nuts are particularly bad; there were almost certainly aflatoxins present in the last peanut butter sandwich you ate, especially if it was "organic" peanut butter). But they have many other toxic effects beyond being carcinogenic...

I have been involved with the discovery of viagra, at an age when I did not need it at all..

Thank you!

thanks to Viagra, bananas or else...For sure, they will prefer that is is not garlic!!

LOL!

-Ww

 

[meiji]

There is even a school of thought, where the guy should masturbate on the day of going on a date, so he will think logically and act calm.

I believe that's called the "Something About Mary" school of thought.

 

[Solong]

I believe that's called the "Something About Mary" school of thought.

The movie made it famous, but this was a style of thinking way before it. They didn't invent the belief.

 

[meiji]

They didn't invent the belief.

Yup. I was making a joke.

 

[split]

I am afraid, my friend, you are falling into the usual misconception that everything "natural" is good. Many "natural" products are actually dangerous, and even more so because they are not submitted to the same regulations that pharma products. Nature produces 1000 times more poisons than human will ever be able to create...Digitalin is a natural product that can kll you in a few minutes if overdosed. Mushrooms produce highly toxic products. Many women who considered themselves "constipated" use "natural" products which destroy their colon (sene for example), all that claiming: "It's natural".. It is but lead them straight to drastic colon removal surgery....

I have been involved with the discovery of viagra, at an age when I did not need it at all.. As you probably all know, it was developed as an hypotensive, and when adm mistered, as all new drugs should, to young healthy volunteers, they all came back smiling...

And also, the usual skepticism about the Pharma industry comes often from those of us lucky enough to be healthy, but is definitively not shared by those who are not not, ask them , cancer patients, HIV, meningitis, gastric ulcers etc..

Having said that, I will repeat that nothing is ever just black or white, yes, of course, the pharma is a business and wants to make money, but I prefer a business making money treating people that those building arms, or even making fast cars in which people can kill themselves..

Back to Viagra: Erectile dysfunction (ED) is a global term which groups several different conditions which require different approaches, and yes, of course, we all know about the fear of failure etc... Nobody denies the brain-sex relationship, (no more, actually than the brain-gut relationship...) Viagra, paradoxically perhaps, can help even the so-called "psychological" ED by providing confidence. And for those with pathologic cause, such as diabetes, atherosclerosis, Viagra is a perfectly fine treatment,
with a perfectibility defined mechanism of action, well studied, with now more than 15 years of experience. None of the "natural" therapies you advise have been studied the way Viagra has been, and nobody knows whether such therapy may not be detrimental on a long run...

To each his own, but my dates should be reassured that I will be able to perform when I meet them, and I don't think they worry whether this is thanks to Viagra, bananas or else...For sure, they will prefer that is is not garlic!!

Just my opinion(s)....

Although I don't quite agree about nature producing 1000x more dangerous chemicals than man, I do certainly agree that natural is a big misconception because in all actuality, natural is just another chemical, of which an underestimated amount of "natural" chemicals are dangerous in many unseen ways. One look at the Acros chemical reagents book (i mean including all organics/inorganics given you might ingest any of them) will show you tons of man-made chemicals that should match your 1000x. I fundamentally have an issue with the word natural I guess. I'd rather use 'safe,' but then who really determines that?

 

[MossBoss]

Be careful if you decide to take one of the blue pills. I got one stuck in my throat. I had a stiff neck for a week.

 

[Mischa Maxwell]

Eat well. Do some running/jogging, stop masturbating and cut the stress will help a lot...

I don't agree with the "stop masturbating" bit. Frequent masturbation and watching A LOT of porn is not a good idea. However, I was once told that the penis is a muscle and as such, it needs to be worked out. Occasional masturbation is ok.
Besides, there has been anecdotal evidence to suggest that ejaculation fights colds.

Has anyone ever tried Oyxtocin nasal spray? I wonder if that would have an effect on sex drive/arousal?

 

[MikeH]

However, I was once told that the penis is a muscle and as such, it needs to be worked out.

While I agree with the rest of your post the penis is not a muscle. And thank the gods for that as muscles get tired and full of lactic acid so they stop working and also hurt the next day after a hard (pun totally intended) workout.

 

[Mischa Maxwell]

While I agree with the rest of your post the penis is not a muscle. And thank the gods for that as muscles get tired and full of lactic acid so they stop working and also hurt the next day after a hard (pun totally intended) workout.

My trainer advises taking magnesium tablets and krill oil before bed to avoid painful muscles the next day. May also be worth packing if you're going away on honeymoon... ​

 

[TheScientist]

Removing the foreskin takes away around 50% of the pleasure. It's genital mutilation, as is labiaplasty.

I mean 50% of the pleasure nerves. On a side note, it is possible to measure muscle contractions during orgasm.

This is the sort of made up data that "inactivists" love to quote but neither has anything to do with reality.

 

[User#16452]

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[TheScientist]

You're cut, right?

I fail to see what that has to do with objective external studies on the subject

 

[User#16452]

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[TheScientist]

The only people who defend circumcision are cut themselves

I'm interested in the objective not the personal here. In the same way as I'll defend the free speech rights of those who wish to exterminate my people or how I'll happily refute those who argue "natural is better than chemicals", contrail believers, and those who wish to dictate the sexuality of others, etc.

Lastly, if you don't any of that, here is paper about it.

And here is a recent study showing the opposite.

Just give up already

No.

 

[TheScientist]

The only people who defend circumcision are cut themselves

Also this is the argument equivalent of "you couldn't understand because you are a woman."

 

[User#16452]

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[numref1234]

However, I was once told that the penis is a muscle and as such, it needs to be worked out.

The penis isn't actually a muscle: http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/penis-health/Pages/Five-penis-facts.aspx

 

[MikeH]

The penis isn't actually a muscle:

What I get reading this thread is penis is either an apple or an orange.

 

[dreams]

You're cut, right?

It may not have been intended, but this a pretty aggressive way to ask...

But I think you are very misleading in your beliefs.
One aspect you have ignored is a well proven benefit or circumcision when it comes to local infections. No need to be a Nobel prize to understand that pieces of flesh there are a receptacle for bacteria of all sorts. Circumcision is actually a recommended surgery for those subject to repeated banalitis or similar infections (Google the term if you don't know what it is).
BTW, I am not "cut" as you so elegantly put.

 

[roots reggae]

I've always thought that a penis is a symbiotic creature. After all, it has a mind of its own.

 

[User#16452]

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[MikeH]

No need to be a Nobel prize to understand that pieces of flesh there are a receptacle for bacteria of all sorts. Circumcision is actually a recommended surgery for those subject to repeated banalitis or similar infections

No need to be even Gold Ribbon award winner in junior high school to understand that if removing your foreskin reduces sexual pleasure it reduces it regardless what is the reason for the removal.

Basically you are arguing that because amputation of legs is sometimes the recommended procedure it will help you to wiggle your toes better.

 

[MikeH]

I've always thought that a penis is a symbiotic creature. After all, it has a mind of its own.

I wish that was true. Mine just mindlessly goes where no man has gone before.

 

[TheScientist]

I mean 50% of the pleasure nerves

OK show me the neurological study which supports this claim. You cited numbers, back em up please. That is of course a reasonable question for a matter of science, right?

"The only people who defend circumcision are cut themselves" statement indicates a cross over between the people who have a physical quality (i.e. being circumcised) with people who defend circumcision from previous evidence.

Again, essentially citation needed. I'm not so much defending circumcision as calling you out for outrageous claims without evidence.

Also, your paper looked at 62 men, mine looked at 1059. Yours looked at heat detection, touch, pain and warmth sensitivity while mine asked the men to rate their sexual satifaction, including sexual pleasure, orgasm intensity and effort to achieve orgasm.

Yeah, subjective vs subjective. Only goes to show that short of a very large sample set fMRI study (as @Wwanderer referred to) your claim is short on hard data to back it up. Again, I'm not claiming one position is more true but calling out bad evidential support for your argument.

Oh, I should have mentioned before, telling me to "just give up already" is about the surest way to make me bulldog a point. Doesn't matter to me how many "likes" your side or mine gets or who prefers what. Again I don't choose to interfere with what others do with their own penis or those of their children.

It may not have been intended, but this a pretty aggressive way to ask...

As far as I've ever heard or seen written, the terms "cut" or "uncut" are basically used for sexual preference amongst homosexual men or occasionally in a derogatory way by people who are against the practice. This is one of those situations where there is really no need for me to take offense even though I am circumcised.

Fwiiw, fMRI activity levels in the brain's "pleasure center" (nucleus accumbens) is probably the most plausible correlate with experienced pleasure that can currently be measured...but never mind!

We wouldn't want to actually allow evidence into one of the standard internet arguments now would we?