Most of the deriheru/hoteheru places have charges where the shower time is part of the time you pay for. When you pay for an hour you rarely get more than 40-45 minutes of play time as the other 15 minutes is for shower time. If
@okayspot showered with her and did not include that in the time above for play then the time he got isn't any different from deri/hote heru. Kirari is totally hit or miss.
I did include that as part of the time, probably shouldn't have.... The girl was letting me keep track of time. When we started taking our clothes off I was just like "uhh, should I start the timer?". and she was kinda surprised when I got in the shower with her.
From what I've read on JP message boards there seems to be an expectation for the pro girls in the cafes that it's a cum once, not so much a set time. with 20 minutes left she started asking me how could we make me cum and that she was starting to get tired. Didn't stop her from heading back to the cafe for one more round though.
One other question about the negotiations it went something like this:
She had only written down Karaoke and Eating out on her list of things she wanted to do
*/ Introductions Small talk Cut /*
Her: So, What do you want to do?
Me: WariKiri
Her: How much are you willing to pay?
Me: how much do you charge?
Her: 30,000
Me: how about 20,000?
Her: I don't know, today I really just wanted to go to karaoke so....
Me: 30,000 is for how long?
Her: One hour
Me: How about two hours?
Her: No I really want to do just one hour
Me: Okay 20,000 is impossible?
Her: Yes, so I guess that ends this Goes to press the no deal button
Me: Wait, What do you sing at at karaoke?
She Lists some pop bands
Me: How Much is Karaoke?
Her: 5000 / hour
Me: Okay, let's go to Karaoke!!!
Her: Well I really want to do Warikiri today., how about 25,000?
Me: 25,000 for 70 minutes?
Her: no one hour
Me: okay, deal.
What's up with the bluffing of the Karaoke? I actually wanted to go with her heh. What better strategies do you use for negotiation?