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So, if that is P4P, all those women are prostitutes, therefore all those women are being charged with solicitation?

You seem to make the mistake (one of many) of confusing P4P with bribing women to keep their mouths shut.

Nobody is denying that if the allegations are true he's a douchebag, but there is only you confusing what he has done with P4P.

I'll try to use simple words, that are easy to follow, as that 20W bulb hasn't lit up yet.
P4P is an agreement between 2 (or more) consenting adults to exchange sexual services for a payment (typically cash).

Cosby has as much to do with P4P as walking into your local Hub, punching the nearest girl in the face and dragging her home by her hair has to do with PUA, but after the OP I'm not surprised you can't see the difference.
 
So, if that is P4P, all those women are prostitutes, therefore all those women are being charged with solicitation?

You seem to make the mistake (one of many) of confusing P4P with bribing women to keep their mouths shut.

Nobody is denying that if the allegations are true he's a douchebag, but there is only you confusing what he has done with P4P.

I'll try to use simple words, that are easy to follow, as that 20W bulb hasn't lit up yet.
P4P is an agreement between 2 (or more) consenting adults to exchange sexual services for a payment (typically cash).

Cosby has as much to do with P4P as walking into your local Hub, punching the nearest girl in the face and dragging her home by her hair has to do with PUA, but after the OP I'm not surprised you can't see the difference.
Only 55 women out of hundreds who cried foul? Appt for the women? I would say consensual. Sure there were some bribing. It was only 8 girls who got the bribe. He still paid the others.

In case you didn't read it all, the agencies were bring him girls left and right. The agency got paid. They where pimping the girls. The witness said the girl new what was going on.
 
I'm confused by your thought process, is he being accused of having consensual sex with prostitutes (P4P) or not?

Must be hell for those agencies though, I thought providing women for sexual services (pimping) was far more serious a sentence than receiving a service. Which people from the agencies are also up on charges? Please enlighten me as I'm intrigued by this story now. Are there any Hollywood moguls that are really moonlighting as Heidi Fleiss?
 
I'm confused by your thought process, is he being accused of having consensual sex with prostitutes (P4P) or not?

Must be hell for those agencies though, I thought providing women for sexual services (pimping) was far more serious a sentence than receiving a service. Which people from the agencies are also up on charges? Please enlighten me as I'm intrigued by this story now. Are there any Hollywood moguls that are really moonlighting as Heidi Fleiss?
It started when reggae tried to link PUA to Cosby. I said he is no PUA but a P4P. His sexual appetite is too great for his ability to get girls. P4P is within Cosby's reach.

If drugs were not involved, I would say he gets away and claim P4P. His only chance is to get the case thrown out. Alot of his accusers have credibility issues. But with drugs, he is toast if they go to court.

The industry has a seedy underbelly. I would not be surprised.
 
I'm not sure of the correlation between a famous multimillionaire's sexual appetite and his need to P4P. Are you saying people with a high sexual appetite must P4P to get women?

Fuck me, Hugh Heffners in for a world of shit if the media ever hear of the Playboy Mansion.
 
I'm not sure of the correlation between a famous multimillionaire's sexual appetite and his need to P4P. Are you saying people with a high sexual appetite must P4P to get women?

Fuck me, Hugh Heffners in for a world of shit if the media ever hear of the Playboy Mansion.
You skip one part of the sentence: his ability to get girls. If a guy is good at attracting women, he does not $$$.
 
The fact is, PUA and P4P don't get along.
But people have the same negative attitude to guys like @Sinapse and @Shades Of Jae who have been very courteous and polite.

While I am not denying it might be a good idea to separate the forums I still do not agree with all you say. First you are claiming PUA and P4P are totally separated groups. I think that would be true only if you have a very strict definition of PUA; in other words meaning only guys who follow always a certain discipline when hitting on girls. I don't identify myself as a PUA or P4P but instead I meet girls for sex in different circumstances. Sometimes they are long term FWBs, sometimes one night encounters and sometimes I do visit DH, an escort or get a massage while obviously paying for those services.

And I don't agree people have the same negative attitude to the PUA guys who are polite and discuss in civilised manner. It seems to me that arrogant assholes get their share of abuse regardless how they identify themselves. But as I don't like to see even deserved abuse in the forums it might be a good idea to have a closed PUA forum as you suggested.
 
play stupid games, win stupid prizes

While I am not denying it might be a good idea to separate the forums I still do not agree with all you say. First you are claiming PUA and P4P are totally separated groups. I think that would be true only if you have a very strict definition of PUA; in other words meaning only guys who follow always a certain discipline when hitting on girls. I don't identify myself as a PUA or P4P but instead I meet girls for sex in different circumstances. Sometimes they are long term FWBs, sometimes one night encounters and sometimes I do visit DH, an escort or get a massage while obviously paying for those services.

And I don't agree people have the same negative attitude to the PUA guys who are polite and discuss in civilised manner. It seems to me that arrogant assholes get their share of abuse regardless how they identify themselves. But as I don't like to see even deserved abuse in the forums it might be a good idea to have a closed PUA forum as you suggested.


Oops, the ghost of the edited post attacked tonight...
 
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Oops, the ghost of the edited post attacked tonight...
The reason I edited it was because I remembered how inane and pointless discussion here tends to be. Here's a simulation:

4vibes: controversial post
JBlair: fuck off creeper
roots reggae: ONE LOVE but ur fucking creepy LOL, u must be young and in the process of forming ur ego (attached picture)
Damian: what JBlair said
Sinapse: some sensible reply
Wwanderer: short novel
4vibes: reply that makes no sense
meiji: stop insulting ppl
roots: sry wasn't me sir haha per fect genteel man
Anna Summers: not all women!!
various people: fuck PUAs and this shit in general
4vibes: painstakingly replies to every post with random stuff
NormalGuy: gets baited so fuckin hard

^this thread so far
 
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The reason I edited it was because I remembered how inane and pointless discussion here tends to be. Here's a simulation:

4vibes: controversial post
JBlair: fuck off creeper
roots reggae: ONE LOVE but ur fucking creepy LOL, u must be young and in the process of forming ur ego
Damian: what JBlair said
Sinapse: some sensible reply
Wwanderer: short novel
4vibes: reply that makes no sense
meiji: stop insulting ppl
roots: sry wasn't me sir haha per fect genteel man
various people: fuck PUAs and this shit in general
4vibes: painstakingly replies to every post with random stuff
NormalGuy: gets baited so fuckin hard

^this thread so far

I just loved it!!

I would even dare to say that summary applies to most of the PUA threads
 
lol, says the person who cried so hard over the last thread that he quit the site
actually replied to your post before remembering you weren't worth my time

don't get your panties twisted over me - I'm just talking to one of my boys and I'll be gone soon. Daddy will come back one day, ok?
 
The reason I edited it was because I remembered how inane and pointless discussion here tends to be. Here's a simulation:

4vibes: controversial post
JBlair: fuck off creeper
roots reggae: ONE LOVE but ur fucking creepy LOL, u must be young and in the process of forming ur ego (attached picture)
Damian: what JBlair said
Sinapse: some sensible reply
Wwanderer: short novel
4vibes: reply that makes no sense
meiji: stop insulting ppl
roots: sry wasn't me sir haha per fect genteel man
Anna Summers: not all women!!
various people: fuck PUAs and this shit in general
4vibes: painstakingly replies to every post with random stuff
NormalGuy: gets baited so fuckin hard

^this thread so far

Welcome back, Deckard.:cool:

Did not realize you were gone, but always appreciate your perspective!
 
Don't worry, next time you quit someone may even notice.

Cast my net expecting to catch one idiot and caught two, must be my lucky day.
 
Don't worry, next time you quit someone may even notice.

Cast my net expecting to catch one idiot and caught two, must be my lucky day.
don't cut yourself on that edge buddy

funny how your logic flies out the window and you resort to ad hominem when you feel slighted, huh?

so much for being "smart"
it's a bad joke

but don't worry about me, I've been spending quality time with a girl who actually likes me
whether anyone notices I'm gone is a matter of profound indifference
 
but don't worry about me, I've been spending quality time with a girl who actually likes me

An interesting and odd choice of words! Do you normally/mostly spend time with girls who actually don't like you??

But anyway, if you left, why did you leave? Where did you go? Why did you come back? Do you think you might leave again? And why are we discussing it?

-Ww
 
An interesting and odd choice of words! Do you normally/mostly spend time with girls who actually don't like you??

But anyway, if you left, why did you leave? Where did you go? Why did you come back? Do you think you might leave again? And why are we discussing it?

-Ww
The word was chosen in contrast to exchanging company for money, in which the girl may or may not like you.
It was an insinuation that certain people might be incapable of attracting women on their own merits. But no hard feelings, we both know where we stand on this, and it wasn't directed at you either.

Sounds like you're singing "cotton eyed joe" :D

I left because I was wasting a lot of time here when I could have been more productive. The discussions were generally rehashes of the same old thing.
As for why I came back, and why we're discussing it, look no further than a couple posts above.

I'll probably migrate to another forum while still keeping tabs here. I just came to get an opinion via PM, thought I'd drop by and say hi.
 
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By the way, imagine this scenario.

A beautiful, confident lady comes up to you at the bar. She is well dressed and has her hair done nicely.

She says:

Hey...

How is it going?

What are you up to later?

Do you want to come home with me?

After your initial surprise, would you go?
 
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