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How comfortable do you feel in advance payment for sugar baby?

Sorry for the Japanese here, basically she is asking me to loan her money because she has no other choice and has exhausted all her options.... sigh....

She has not and would not do any type of extreme things, so 80,000 yen is not something she can get in 3 days time....
I actually do believe her, she just sucks at managing money worse then anyone I`ve ever met.
Find it highly unlikely I would ever get my money back.

Her old job got lost because the manager basically went crazy and attacked a co-worker (Actually was able to verify her story on this...)
Has just started a full time job that will bring her like 200,000 a month.
How can I help her?

The only thing I can think of that she could offer that is worth 80,000 yen is sexual services and she doesn`t want to do that, and I really don`t want to be the villain that coerces someone into sex for money.

もうこれ以上アコムとかアイフルとかで借金を増やせないのね、上限の問題で…
それで本当にどうしようもなくなっちゃって、実はお母さんに連絡してみたの。
でもやっぱり、そもそも私に援助できるお金をお母さんも持ってなくて私には貸せないんだって。
でもあと３日以内に、最低でも8万円が必要なの。
それでOKAYSPOTにお願いがあって…
私がこれ以上アコムとかでお金を借りれない代わりに、OKAYSPOTがアコムの役割をしてくれないかな？(>_<)
今後私の給料日が来るたびに一定のお金をOKAYSPOTに振り込みで返す約束で、
少しまとまったお金を貸してほしいの(T_T)

新しい職場も教えます。

これはOKAYSPOTにとって究極で、最低なお願いだと思う。
でもどうすることもできないんです(>_<)これ以外に方法がなくて…
 
Depends of the relationship you have with her and as you said, she suckd to manage money so there is a high probability to do not get back your 80k!

She s an adult and has to be responsible.
If she asks to several SD the same soon she get 1million...
 
diobrando said:
Depends of the relationship you have with her and as you said, she suckd to manage money so there is a high probability to do not get back your 80k!

She s an adult and has to be responsible.
If she asks to several SD the same soon she get 1million...
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Yes, this may well be some kind of crowdfunding exercise...
I would give if I really like and pity her , or do nothing, but not "lend" if you know full well she can't repay. If she's into Acom, Aiful etc kind of debt already this may not end well and she may really end up doing sex work even if she doesnt want to.
 
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diobrando said:
Debt spiral has already started and everybody knows end is almost untouchable!
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I have hope for her in the debt spiral in that she basically stopped contacting me once she had a full time job, aka 200,000 was actually enough money for her every month.
I had to be persistent in contacting her to get our agreed upon time.

Then she lost the job and started contacting me again.
 
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User#8628 said:
Honestly, i would cut contact with her.
This is not gonna be the last time she is in trouble.

I wish there was an easy way to wake people up when they are completely out of control but people really need to take charge of their own life.
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I am repeating myself but: we really need the superlike button here!

There are two options for this girl; the realistic and the unrealistic. First option is that an angel descends from the heaven and helps her with her money problems. The second option is that she actually adults up and takes responsible for her ways with money and life in general.

Unfortunately the angel option is the realistic one....

She will hit the bottom soon. You can prolong this, and at the same time make her fall deeper, by giving the money to her. Or you can cut all connections with her and let her fall.

Well, there is a third option too; you have unlimited funds that you can use to shell out her more ammunition to destroy her life. Just make sure those funds are really unlimited as she will never stop asking.
 
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Oh go on. Give her the money. And next time too. Never stop. It's only money, after all. What possible use could you have for it?
 
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Dude. The girl will always have a choice. It is not your responsibility to ensure her life goes on a smooth trajectory just because she has no concept of money management whatsoever. Reading your posts I cannot feel any empathy towards the girl but rather annoyance at your gullibility to even consider such a proposal which has zero benefits to you. Use that money instead for a better cause such as charity or elsewhere whereby you will have made a difference atleast and not get scammed. Sorry for sounding harsh but it is the reality of the sitatuation. I sincerely hope you make the right choice as nothing boils my blood more than knowing that a scam is happening with the use of emotional leverage.

If you still really feel the need to help the girl, then as some above poster mentioned, tell her to roll her sleeves up and do some hard work and take responsibility and get herself out of her own debt
 
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If she is asking to meet as just friends, plus asking for more money then I would say she is probably starting to see you as sucker. (unless she has a genuine reason for the just friends thing such as having her period).

Also if your only meeting for 2 hours at a time it sounds to me that she is only doing it for the money and that is not what you want, and it's not going to work out. (Unless it's you that is busy and doesn't have the time).
 
Glock said:
Dude. The girl will always have a choice. It is not your responsibility to ensure her life goes on a smooth trajectory just because she has no concept of money management whatsoever. Reading your posts I cannot feel any empathy towards the girl but rather annoyance at your gullibility to even consider such a proposal which has zero benefits to you. Use that money instead for a better cause such as charity or elsewhere whereby you will have made a difference atleast and not get scammed. Sorry for sounding harsh but it is the reality of the sitatuation. I sincerely hope you make the right choice as nothing boils my blood more than knowing that a scam is happening with the use of emotional leverage.

If you still really feel the need to help the girl, then as some above poster mentioned, tell her to roll her sleeves up and do some hard work and take responsibility and get herself out of her own debt
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There has never been anything sexual with this girl.... I've always paid just for her company.
She has held ""let's go to disneyland!"over my head for many months without attempting to ever really go.

Liking her too much is most likely part of the problem.... not sure why I feel the need to want to give her gifts and etc when she doesn't particularly try to do anything in return besides showing me pictures of the stuffed animals I bought her living in her room and telling me how much she enjoyed playing the happy home designer 3DS game I purchased for her and showing me the homes she has made.

I understand how people go deep into debt on hosts now, I'd rather spend 20000 yen talking to her then 20000 yen for sex with some random cute girl.

Anyway, Gave her 40,000 yen, just to see how she handles it when she doesn't pay me back. Pretty sure it will be a "Let's trade my time in exchange for not paying it back"
 
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User#8628 said:
I hope for you she'll at least put in her time.
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I get what you mean but I hope she doesn't give him anything. Maybe that's enough for him to finally push him over the edge and cut the girl off.

Sounds as fun as sticking a fork in to a wall socket. Repeatedly to see if it still gives you an electric shock.
 
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okayspot said:
There has never been anything sexual with this girl.... I've always paid just for her company.
She has held ""let's go to disneyland!"over my head for many months without attempting to ever really go.

Liking her too much is most likely part of the problem.... not sure why I feel the need to want to give her gifts and etc when she doesn't particularly try to do anything in return besides showing me pictures of the stuffed animals I bought her living in her room and telling me how much she enjoyed playing the happy home designer 3DS game I purchased for her and showing me the homes she has made.

I understand how people go deep into debt on hosts now, I'd rather spend 20000 yen talking to her then 20000 yen for sex with some random cute girl.

Anyway, Gave her 40,000 yen, just to see how she handles it when she doesn't pay me back. Pretty sure it will be a "Let's trade my time in exchange for not paying it back"
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Let's put it that way: she is an escort and you pay just for her social time ! Then everybody will say good things about her and trash you for being so negative... just a matter of perspective man! :ROFLMAO:
 
If you're dumb with your money, you're dumb... I've seen it before. Some people are just lazy and wanna be fed fish every day, learning how to fish is too much of a hassle. Give her a few bucks and move on.
 
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This thread is open again. Posters may be banned from replying to this thread if it derails into a massive flood of CRAP.

Thanks.
 
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I'm not sure I would even want to fuck her , given all what happened before. Maybe the OP found other ways to justify his donation ?
After all if I give to the WWF its not because I want to fuck pandas
 
Frenchy said:
After all if I give to the WWF its not because I want to fuck pandas
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OP I know you are smitten by this girl and that's clouding your judgment, I'm sorry for not sugar coating it but the cold hard truth is that she figured out you're a nice piggy bank to hit once she needs you, and the worst part is by stringing you along, she continues to be able to get more and more.

She is withholding sex because with that, comes power. You're paying for a service in the hopes of eventually receiving it, (or at least more quality time) and she has figured out that you will continue to pay as long as you haven't received. Even hoping to get more.

I know companionship is actually what you seek mostly, but you also mentioned that you're a little fed up with the lack of sex, and for that amount of money it is completely unreasonable to not expect things to get physical.

you're stuck in a made believe, selfish, one sided sexless marriage with a girl that can't handle her finances and is probably using you, divorces happen for far less.

Know your value. Get out of it before it's too late, there are plenty of other girls.
 
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IMO it is both a sign of mental illness and a cause of mental illness to pay people for companionship or friendship. These are things you should not try to buy. When you pay someone to pretend to be your friend, especially when there is no sex provided, it should be very damaging to self-esteem and self-respect. In the back of your mind, you will always know that the friendship is not real. You will always know that you are paying for a fake friendship because you have failed to make a real friendship. Any intelligent person will come to the painful realization that they are somehow weak - especially when the fake friendship providor takes advantage of their postion of power. IMO it is better to be alone. Now. Paying for sex is a completely different thing. No doubt sex with mutual feelings of love or friendship is the best, but P4P is good and fine too. Its like an upgraded form of masturbation. It has a legitimate purpose of relieving stress and it can be fun and exciting. Renting an escort for me is like renting a motorcycle. Respect it. Treat it right. Ride it hard. Pay for it.
 
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warubuta said:
No doubt sex with mutual feelings of love or friendship is the best
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Thank you for your viewpoints. Not because I agree with you but exactly for the opposite reason. It is refreshing to read a post to which I don't agree a single thing.

So let's pick up one randomly. I have very big doubts that sex needs to involve love to be at its best. Because sometimes the exact opposite is true.

When you don't know the person at all sex can be the best as you can forget all the things that you do normally and just concentrate to figure out what makes your partner tick.
 
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Most people agree that sex with someone you care about is good. But I have had great sex with people I dislike. Nothing like a good hate fuck. Sex with someone you don't really care about one way or another (like a ) is the classic sport fuck. So there you have it. Love fuck, hate fuck, sport fuck. Sex is like pizza. Even when its bad, its still good.
 
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