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Sharing my failed date from the girl I met via SD jp. People can get an idea that it is not always rosy.

I had a feeling she wouldn't be a good one during the initial messaging. She is demanding, like asking for the meeting to be sooner rather than later, telling me that the place I choose initially is too far, making the same comment again when I suggested an alternative, etc.

On the day she was 40 minutes late. This despite the fact that she was the one who proposed to meet 20 minutes earlier than the Initially agreed time.

Before we sitting down at the restaurant I felt that we aren't going to be a good match for some reason.

Then the conversation was so bland that I felt like I should just leave. She wasn't that good looking but not bad either. She tried to eat as quickly as possible and rushing out of the place to the hotel.

Then in the room, a quick shower, a quick fuck which she mostly trying to avoid me touching her as much as possible. I couldn't came. We left within about 45 minutes after entering the hotel.

The whole date , including the dinner was only about two hours long. I guess she is trying to make her round to other meetings.

Other than this SD bait and switch story, this is the first time that I didn't exchange Line with the girl.

Seriously, next time I should learn to cut loss, give her some money and leave after dinner.
 
Dang that's a real shame. This is why I started doing dinner meetups for the first date, and then adult exchanges on the 2nd meet-up. This way you can weed out women that you don't get along with. It's more time consuming, but I've found that it builds more tension and rapport for the 2nd date and beyond.
 
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Had another date with a new girl. She was so strict about time. I can only be with her for total of three hours. One hour lunch and two hours at the hotel. This was communicate to me before we meet up.

Felt like being with a DH girl / escort rather than a SB. Granted she is asking slightly less than others but I felt I would rather pay more and be with someone without having to worry about time. She also charges extra for having meal before going to the hotel. Not my usual type of arrangements.

I know she wants to maximize her day off but it just felt so transactional.
Some may complain that I am exploiting the girl but that's why I chose SB.

I think I will stick to my usual of paying per date rather than by hours.
 
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Had another date with a new girl. She was so strict about time. I can only be with her for total of three hours. One hour lunch and two hours at the hotel. This was communicate to me before we meet up.

Felt like being with a DH girl / escort rather than a SB. Granted she is asking slightly less than others but I felt I would rather pay more and be with someone without having to worry about time. She also charges extra for having meal before going to the hotel. Not my usual type of arrangements.

I know she wants to maximize her day off but it just felt so transactional.
Some may complain that I am exploiting the girl but that's why I chose SB.

I think I will stick to my usual of paying per date rather than by hours.
This girl looks like she has a taximeter in her head, certainly, it's not the GFE that an SB usually gives. That breaks the magic. It would be better for her to charge more and be more flexible, both for her income and experience.
 
I'm thinking about this as I just received an unexpected subtainial bonus. I offered an arrangement to an acquaintance who I know is in financial trouble, she thought about it but didn't want to "ruin our friendship".
It was probably ruined the moment you offered her cash for sex to help her out of her financial predicament
 
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Had another date with a new girl. She was so strict about time. I can only be with her for total of three hours. One hour lunch and two hours at the hotel. This was communicate to me before we meet up.

Felt like being with a DH girl / escort rather than a SB. Granted she is asking slightly less than others but I felt I would rather pay more and be with someone without having to worry about time. She also charges extra for having meal before going to the hotel. Not my usual type of arrangements.

I know she wants to maximize her day off but it just felt so transactional.
Some may complain that I am exploiting the girl but that's why I chose SB.

I think I will stick to my usual of paying per date rather than by hours.
I definitely understand your feeling.
I also feel like people may have other (non SD) plans with the rest of their day or have some other kind of commitments they have to be on time for, so an outline on time is not a bad idea, but I know sugaring is best not to be rushed.
 
Had another date with a new girl. She was so strict about time. I can only be with her for total of three hours. One hour lunch and two hours at the hotel. This was communicate to me before we meet up.

Felt like being with a DH girl / escort rather than a SB. Granted she is asking slightly less than others but I felt I would rather pay more and be with someone without having to worry about time. She also charges extra for having meal before going to the hotel. Not my usual type of arrangements.

I know she wants to maximize her day off but it just felt so transactional.
Some may complain that I am exploiting the girl but that's why I chose SB.

I think I will stick to my usual of paying per date rather than by hours.
How do you know she wasn't an escort or shop girl. My experience on paters and this one is your more likely to find an escort or shop girl than a normal girl. A lot of shop girls do this on the side or when the shop is slow to make even more money. If her timeable was as stricter as that chances are she really was a shop girl.
 
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How do you know she wasn't an escort or shop girl.
I don't, and it doesn't matter. I don't care if they are escort/DH workers doing this as a side job. As long as we have a good time, with the reasonable arrangements. The girl could be a Chinese spy and I still don't care.

I suspect one of my SBs is actually that, a hot spy lady from China .
 
I suspect one of my SBs is actually that, a hot spy lady from China .
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so I guess the perk of SB is they are not as strict with time compared to professional?

not sure if I want to allocate my SL budget for 1 SB lol.
 
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Some SBs also do this as a job also and would need to watch the clock. Some might also have husbands or boyfriends so would need to watch time also to avoid being caught.
 
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Interesting to hear other experiences
Sorry for being offline for a while

FWIW, still with my long term baby and it's been a while now
Have two overseas trips planned and have her passport details as well, so it's going well
The last time we went out (Seoul), she said not to mind the daily rate, so I just buy her gifts now and then (standard, nothing branded really)
Still no BB though, for those wondering, I've slipped it in a couple of times and she gave me a stern look lol

May find some more fish though, living in Australia now and need something more local
Lots of working Japanese here but hard to reel any in and none are on websites
 
How do you know she wasn't an escort or shop girl. My experience on paters and this one is your more likely to find an escort or shop girl than a normal girl. A lot of shop girls do this on the side or when the shop is slow to make even more money. If her timeable was as stricter as that chances are she really was a shop girl.
Lots of these ladies are shop girls!
 
Still no BB though, for those wondering, I've slipped it in a couple of times and she gave me a stern look lol
I always wrap up before FS with escorts, and they usually insist on it before I get my battering ram anywhere near their castle gates. But IME, many SBs are willing to go BB from the get-go, usually just politely requesting that I don't cum inside them after I have already slipped it in. One of them actually proudly told me, in a text message before meeting up, that she was on the pill and I could fill her with jizz if I wanted to. (Unsurprisingly, she turned out to be very skanky; somewhat surprisingly, she was also not at all good in bed.)
 
I always wrap up before FS with escorts, and they usually insist on it before I get my battering ram anywhere near their castle gates. But IME, many SBs are willing to go BB from the get-go, usually just politely requesting that I don't cum inside them after I have already slipped it in. One of them actually proudly told me, in a text message before meeting up, that she was on the pill and I could fill her with jizz if I wanted to. (Unsurprisingly, she turned out to be very skanky; somewhat surprisingly, she was also not at all good in bed.)
Any woman that would fuck me without a condom is a woman I would not fuck unless I used a condom
 
An SB I initially met via SD.com, whom I've only had the opportunity to meet once—over two years ago—recently reached out by Line, proposing we have dinner together. :oops: Accompanying her message were several pics, and the transformation she has undergone is nothing short of spectacular. :love: I find myself wishing I could say the same about my own changes during this time. :ROFLMAO:
 
Sounds like a win!

I am “grooming” a pro who works fervently in a different city but comes to Tokyo regularly. We met for dinner and play, and found it mutually excellent. She’s coming to Tokyo again and I’ll pay for her hotel and possibly we can meet there, though to be honest that might be a bit too much into her “real” life and love hotels have better beds and bathrooms anyway.
Made it very clear that if she’s willing to make the time for me I will make it worth her while.
We have excellent chemistry and she loves to eat so feeding her is nearly as much fun as …feeding her 😆
 
She’s coming to Tokyo again and I’ll pay for her hotel and possibly we can meet there, though to be honest that might be a bit too much into her “real” life and love hotels have better beds and bathrooms anyway.


Paying for "her" hotel sounds a bit much unless that's chump change for you. Or unless she would agree that it would be considered as support in lieu of pocket money.

Do you mean it would get into her "real" life because you would get her name? You could just give a fake name. Or check in alone first, and then walk her in. or let her check in and give cash. Although I have yet to have a hotel demand a real name or ID from my date, it is a possibility.
 
Paying for "her" hotel sounds a bit much unless that's chump change for you. Or unless she would agree that it would be considered as support in lieu of pocket money.

Do you mean it would get into her "real" life because you would get her name? You could just give a fake name. Or check in alone first, and then walk her in. or let her check in and give cash. Although I have yet to have a hotel demand a real name or ID from my date, it is a possibility.
The money isn’t the issue. Tokyo hotels are now stupid expensive so she’s struggling to justify coming to Tokyo every month. I’m not willing to completely sponsor her but helping with the hotel is easy enough. I just give her money for hotel and she books herself. Don’t care if she pockets the cash and sleeps in a net cafe, not my business.
I am less concerned about knowing her name and more mindful of not encroaching into her personal space. Don’t want her to feel like her room has to be clean and perfect for me, or that she has to worry about me stalking her or anything; I am clear with her that I want to see her some time but not ALL the time. I don’t think she has others she is seeing in a similar way in Tokyo but even if she is I don’t care. She’s a pro anyway she spends all her time at work with other guys so if that bothered me in the first place this would never work.
I just like seeing her outside the shop, at a lazy pace, with dinner and maybe some shopping after. It’s fun.
 
The money isn’t the issue. Tokyo hotels are now stupid expensive so she’s struggling to justify coming to Tokyo every month. I’m not willing to completely sponsor her but helping with the hotel is easy enough. I just give her money for hotel and she books herself. Don’t care if she pockets the cash and sleeps in a net cafe, not my business.


Yeah, hotels have jumped up in price with tourism sadly. Gone are pandemic day pricing when hotels were like capsule prices.

Y'know... since she is getting the bulk of her money during trips by working... she possibly genuinely likes you, or at least enjoys spending time with you. You might be able to negotiate some of the hotel cost or the transportation cost as support instead of cash. Might be cheaper + more meaningful... win-win
 
The money isn’t the issue. Tokyo hotels are now stupid expensive so she’s struggling to justify coming to Tokyo every month. I’m not willing to completely sponsor her but helping with the hotel is easy enough. I just give her money for hotel and she books herself. Don’t care if she pockets the cash and sleeps in a net cafe, not my business.
I am less concerned about knowing her name and more mindful of not encroaching into her personal space. Don’t want her to feel like her room has to be clean and perfect for me, or that she has to worry about me stalking her or anything; I am clear with her that I want to see her some time but not ALL the time. I don’t think she has others she is seeing in a similar way in Tokyo but even if she is I don’t care. She’s a pro anyway she spends all her time at work with other guys so if that bothered me in the first place this would never work.
I just like seeing her outside the shop, at a lazy pace, with dinner and maybe some shopping after. It’s fun.
As a service provider, someone with this kind of attitude approaching you is a DREAM.

Not sure how the market is like for P4P that isn’t part of my industry but… Since I work primarily in Kabukicho, it seems like
if you want a quick lay the short cut is to go to Okubo Koen and get your dick wet for “ichigo (1.5)”, possibly come home with “souvenirs”…
 
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As a service provider, someone with this kind of attitude approaching you is a DREAM.

Not sure how the market is like for P4P that isn’t part of my industry but… Since I work primarily in Kabukicho, it seems like
if you want a quick lay the short cut is to go to Okubo Koen and get your dick wet for “ichigo (1.5)”, possibly come home with “souvenirs”…

Sure. If you want to be a predatory douchebag and take your chances with getting grilled for hours in the local koban or jacked by your friendly chinpira. Another great way to get branded as a persona non grata and fast tracked to the Narita exit line. Darwin awards in the making.
 
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