The #MeToo Madness is convulsing America

I want to be a masculinist
I think Chippendales places should be closed because they objectify men
Also they are young, hot, muscular and they have big dicks and I resent it :)
You forgot to add “when did this.. become sexier than this..” :D
 
This is how things have historically progressed: Hegelian dialectic. Idea/movement A happens, then eventually it’s opposite -A rises up to oppose it, then we settle into a new normal, B. Rinse/repeat.

First it was the LGBT. Want the right to marry? I’m all for it. Equal rights? Fuck ya. Now you want separate bathrooms and convoluted rules for who pees where? Fuck off. I warned my gay friends a few years ago to get ready, they’ve won too much too quickly, get ready for the backlash.

Was #metoo needed? Absolutely. Has it gone too far? Almost certainly. Where are my tits on Westworld??? Aziz was in fact the point at which I think the rational people were like “this has gone too far”. Now we’ll wait to see what the new normal ends up being. And for the record, as much as I hate the evangelical right for their outdated ideas on pretty much everything, you’re right that the US suffers from holier than thou lefties who know nothing about sex work but support SESTA/FOSTA and need to “save” every sex worker because they must be “trafficked” even if they just don’t realize it yet.
 
Evangelical Right..... IMO. A bunch of rubbish.... Everyone has the right to believe what they want and express it.... But keep ur ways to yourself... It's not thier place to tell others what to do... But they somehow believe this is "spreading Gospel " and continue to spout rubbish in the name of the Lord... LMFAO....

Many times it is these people with the more extreme perversions or fetishes once they get outted... Seems repression causes more issues than good
 
Everyone has the right to believe what they want and express it.... But keep ur ways to yourself... It's not thier place to tell others what to do...

Unfortunately what they believe is that they must convert everyone to their belief, so while I agree with your sentiment, they will never follow it.
 
Yeah it does sound like #MeToo wants to hurt and restrict heterosexual men from being able to meet or interact with women in real (civil) life, while the Repubs/Jesus Freaks/conservatives want to hurt and restrict heterosexual men from being able to enjoy commercial options such as porn and prostitution.

In other words there's a double restriction being placed on heterosexual men right now. This is an awful time to be a man! Both of these groups are our enemies.

If you're lonely or horny, on the one hand you can't meet women anymore in the workplace, in bars, or in any social environment, because you'll be playing with fire as a result of new #MeToo restrictions on social life. But on the other hand you can't take advantage of the commercial scene because it's been eradicated by conservatives via SESTA/FOSTA.

It's like a confluence of liberals and conservatives, all with the same goal: to stop sexual activity and shut down sexual fun, whether it's social interactions or commercial interactions.
We men are the victims. Neither side speaks for us in this battle. We lost our commercial outlets, and now we've lost our social outlets.

We're on a prostitution forum, but don't pretend like you're not affected by #MeToo because you're "fine" with a "clear dividing line" between civil and commercial worlds. If there's no way for you to meet women socially due to this new #MeToo culture, then even if you're lucky to live in a country that allows commercial services, being a lonely bachelor (especially if you're older and have no other easy ways to meet people other than at work, for instance) will still take a huge toll on you. Both sides of this issue are really ugly for us men, including the civil side.
 
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Yeah it does sound like #MeToo wants to hurt and restrict heterosexual men from being able to meet or interact with women in real (civil) life, while the Repubs/Jesus Freaks/conservatives want to hurt and restrict heterosexual men from being able to enjoy commercial options such as porn and prostitution.

In other words there's a double restriction being placed on heterosexual men right now. This is an awful time to be a man! Both of these groups are our enemies.

If you're lonely or horny, on the one hand you can't meet women anymore in the workplace, in bars, or in any social environment, because you'll be playing with fire as a result of new #MeToo restrictions on social life. But on the other hand you can't take advantage of the commercial scene because it's been eradicated by conservatives via SESTA/FOSTA.

It's like a confluence of liberals and conservatives, all with the same goal: to stop sexual activity and shut down sexual fun, whether it's social interactions or commercial interactions.
We men are the victims. Neither side speaks for us in this battle. We lost our commercial outlets, and now we've lost our social outlets.

We're on a prostitution forum, but don't pretend like you're not affected by #MeToo because you're "fine" with a "clear dividing line" between civil and commercial worlds. If there's no way for you to meet women socially due to this new #MeToo culture, then even if you're lucky to live in a country that allows commercial services, being a lonely bachelor (especially if you're older and have no other easy ways to meet people other than at work, for instance) will still take a huge toll on you. Both sides of this issue are really ugly for us men, including the civil side.
Would you like some cheese with your whine?
 
This is how things have historically progressed: Hegelian dialectic. Idea/movement A happens, then eventually it’s opposite -A rises up to oppose it, then we settle into a new normal, B. Rinse/repeat.

First it was the LGBT. Want the right to marry? I’m all for it. Equal rights? Fuck ya. Now you want separate bathrooms and convoluted rules for who pees where? Fuck off. I warned my gay friends a few years ago to get ready, they’ve won too much too quickly, get ready for the backlash.

Was #metoo needed? Absolutely. Has it gone too far? Almost certainly. Where are my tits on Westworld??? Aziz was in fact the point at which I think the rational people were like “this has gone too far”. Now we’ll wait to see what the new normal ends up being. And for the record, as much as I hate the evangelical right for their outdated ideas on pretty much everything, you’re right that the US suffers from holier than thou lefties who know nothing about sex work but support SESTA/FOSTA and need to “save” every sex worker because they must be “trafficked” even if they just don’t realize it yet.
As far a practical shit like bathrooms are concerned, if you are not quite a boy or not really a girl but something wonderful and unique, and you have a hard time with public bathrooms, well you need to think of yourself kinda like left handed people think of themselves. You are a bit unusual so don’t expect the world to accommodate you. It has nothing to do with denying you anything. well actually it does, but we got more important shit to worry about than making a nice comfortable place for you to pee!
 
Hmmm, I see where you come from but don’t forget that nobody force ladies to enter beauty pageants and cheerleaders teams. And many women like those too. If they are doomed by social evolution then so be it , they will disappear silently, no need to censor or forbid them.
1000% agree with this sentiment.

It's rather difficult for me to share my thoughts on ANY movement as I'm a "on the fence" or "see both sides of the issues" type of guy, but it bugs the hell out of me whenever things get out of hand or hypocritical. So people worked so hard to give women a chance for equal rights and the opportunity to do whatever they want to do, only to have them only do things that are we find "socially acceptable" and will shame them if they don't act accordingly? I don't get it...
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We men are the victims.

MEN ARE THE VICTIMS OF AN ANTI SEXUAL ASSAULT MOVEMENT BECAUSE THEY CANT APPROACH WOMEN THE SAME WAY!!! I AM DYING.

If you seriously cant think of an appropriate way to approach a woman without pissing her off( or worse), then -and I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, buddy- #metoo hypersensitivity was never the problem.
 
If you seriously cant think of an appropriate way to approach a woman without pissing her off( or worse), then -and I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, buddy- #metoo hypersensitivity was never the problem.

In the goth community it was "hey, nice boots. wanna fuck?" ;-)
 
MEN ARE THE VICTIMS OF AN ANTI SEXUAL ASSAULT MOVEMENT BECAUSE THEY CANT APPROACH WOMEN THE SAME WAY!!! I AM DYING.

If you seriously cant think of an appropriate way to approach a woman without pissing her off( or worse), then -and I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, buddy- #metoo hypersensitivity was never the problem.

But "Baby.... C'mon" :p What's wrong with my approach... Those Shoes are Mavalous ! ! ! ! but they would look best in my shoe cupboard, rack or by the door :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
I'm a "on the fence" or "see both sides of the issues" type of guy

They actually made a study and, you must fucking love science, what they found out was everybody hates people like you.

The only problem there is that makes it for people who like to piss everyone off, like me, too easy. You just have to wait until someone goes "I think we should only eat free range eggs, and also send all gays to concentration camp." And then I just need to tell everyone "I think he made a good point about the chicken" and wait for the inevitable bursting of veins in the forehead and tsunami of "Why do you hate gays? Nazi!".
 
We men are the victims.

Again, speak for yourself. I (we) walked up to a (pair of) girl(s) in a bar last night in Seoul, chatted her up, danced a bit, and pulled her, and a little later was pulling her hair. There weren’t any victims in this scenario. MeToo doesn’t make it impossible to chat girls up in bars, but it hopefully will make it harder for douchebags to pester women in bars when their advances clearly aren’t welcome. And that’s a good thing. Everyone wins except the douchebags.
 
MEN ARE THE VICTIMS OF AN ANTI SEXUAL ASSAULT MOVEMENT BECAUSE THEY CANT APPROACH WOMEN THE SAME WAY!!! I AM DYING.

If you seriously cant think of an appropriate way to approach a woman without pissing her off( or worse), then -and I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, buddy- #metoo hypersensitivity was never the problem.
I agree with you but using all caps makes you look like a Trump supporter
 
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Again, speak for yourself. I (we) walked up to a (pair of) girl(s) in a bar last night in Seoul, chatted her up, danced a bit, and pulled her, and a little later was pulling her hair. There weren’t any victims in this scenario. MeToo doesn’t make it impossible to chat girls up in bars, but it hopefully will make it harder for douchebags to pester women in bars when their advances clearly aren’t welcome. And that’s a good thing. Everyone wins except the douchebags.
Well done on getting laid. You are super cool.
 
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MEN ARE THE VICTIMS OF AN ANTI SEXUAL ASSAULT MOVEMENT BECAUSE THEY CANT APPROACH WOMEN THE SAME WAY!!! I AM DYING.
If you seriously cant think of an appropriate way to approach a woman without pissing her off( or worse), then -and I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, buddy- #metoo hypersensitivity was never the problem.

Like asking someone out for a drink, right? Well, according to studies, 1 in 4 of today's young women (millennials) believe it is sexual harassment if someone asks them out for a drink. 1 in 3 thinks it's harassment if someone compliments them on their appearance. You just haven't been paying attention.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/2385...-think-compliments-drink-amanda-prestigiacomo
https://www.economist.com/graphic-d...-partly-on-whom-you-ask?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/
 
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A review of recent headlines for your enjoyment. These are all mainstream US newspapers. These aren't some obscure blogs like the alt-right or alt-left; no, this the Washington Post, NBC News, in other words your typical news sources. You've never seen this kind of anti-male rhetoric before -- in mainstream news. Someone with an agenda is driving this trend against men.

Why Can't We Hate Men?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a3a8e0-6451-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html

The all-female 'Ocean's 8' is easily the best film of the franchise. They should've ditched the men sooner.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...-8-easily-best-film-franchise-they-ncna881156

The patriarchal race to colonize Mars is just another example of male entitlement (colonizing Mars? WTF)
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...t-another-example-male-entitlement-ncna849681

I swear to make the patriarchy uncomfortable. And I'm proud of it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/i-swear-make-patriarchy-uncomfortable-i-m-proud-it-ncna870736

The Unexamined Brutality of the Male Libido

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/25/opinion/sunday/harassment-men-libido-masculinity.html?rref=collection/sectioncollection/opinion

How many men are harassers or predators?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...dcfc1e-de69-11e7-8679-a9728984779c_story.html


There are monsters everywhere
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...e-monsters-everywhere/?utm_term=.f0578db5ef8d
 
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A review of recent headlines for your enjoyment. These are all mainstream US newspapers. These aren't some obscure blogs like the alt-right or alt-left; no, this the Washington Post, NBC News, in other words your typical news sources. You've never seen this kind of anti-male rhetoric before -- in mainstream news. Someone with an agenda is driving this trend against men.

Why Can't We Hate Men?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a3a8e0-6451-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html

The all-female 'Ocean's 8' is easily the best film of the franchise. They should've ditched the men sooner.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...-8-easily-best-film-franchise-they-ncna881156

The patriarchal race to colonize Mars is just another example of male entitlement (colonizing Mars? WTF)
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...t-another-example-male-entitlement-ncna849681

I swear to make the patriarchy uncomfortable. And I'm proud of it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/i-swear-make-patriarchy-uncomfortable-i-m-proud-it-ncna870736

The Unexamined Brutality of the Male Libido

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/25/opinion/sunday/harassment-men-libido-masculinity.html?rref=collection/sectioncollection/opinion

Im not going to read these as the all look incredibly boring but im 100% certain that the headlines are purposely ‘triggering’ to get more clicks and the articles are a bit more balanced.

As hetero males from developed countries, we are not the oppressed here.