1/ Are foreigners allowed in Olive21 ? I already sent an email in english but no answer.
2/ How much is it for both of us ? Admission fee + entrance is 7000 or 5000+7000 ?
3/ Is the fact we're not speaking Japanese a real issue ? Or can we just nod when he tells the rules... ?
4/ Do Japanese in this club willing to watch and swap with foreigners ? My gf is bi-curious so she might have fun with girls too...
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@syckness
1) Yes, foreigners are allowed in the club, but you need to be able to speak basic Japanese. You DON'T need to be fluent, but do need to understand what's going on.
In fact, they will politely test your Japanese speaking ability, but it's a SIMPLE test. The reason for this is to prevent misunderstandings and potential arguments with Japanese couples.
Ways around this, is to come with a Japanese couple or have a Japanese partner (can be Japanese speaking foreign couple too).
Another way is to have experience with swinging at Japanese clubs, to compliment your basic level Japanese speaking. In that way, you know how to act and what's going on. If you tell them that you have been to other JAPANESE happening bars that THEY know, they will be more lenient in allowing you to become a member, as you understand the rules of conduct. SHOW them your membership card from the other happening bar.
1B) No, they are not going to answer e-mails in English.
2) The fee is 7,000 yen for both of you. Only couples can enter, so prices are for couples.
Edit- You might be charged a first time new member's fee and for you membership card. I forgot what it was...
3) See answer to 1. The point is not so much your Japanese, but that you need to understand the rules and how to interact with other Japanese couples to not cause problems for the club.
A) I suggest that you get familiar with interacting with Japanese couples and rules.
Try the happening bars Sleeping Beauty in Shibuya (
http://www.sleeping-beauty2006.com/) or WakuWaku 9259 in east Shinjuku (
http://www.bar9259.com/) WakuWaku 9259 is very good at teaching that "weird Japanese vibe". Don't expect much swinger action, but you will often get a Japanese cultural experience.
They both are more lenient about Japanese language ability, and tend to have people and staff that speak SOME English. Just going 1x or 2x, is usually enough for you to figure out how to interact with Japanese couples.
B) Olive-21 is HARDCORE.
Couple Kissas aren't like Happening Bars or time wasting. People at Olive (couple kissas) will swap, a lot.
You should understand the "vibe". Many Japanese can be a bit weird to foreigners. So it's good to have a bit of experience dealing with them.
C) If you have experience as swingers and think you both can handle it, then you can go straight to Olive (Friday or Saturday is best). But be honest with yourself about your experience level and ability to interact with Japanese couples.
4) Most Japanese will happily swap with foreigners. Especially if the couple is good looking, young, and/or the lady is bi. There are a lot of bi-curious Japanese women.
It's only some Japanese that have a kind of ultra-nationalistic vibe. You will often spot those types by their standoffish behavior or overly trying to ignore your attempts to communicate with them.
