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Thank you very much for this warning, because of your post I cancel today apointment with girl that can do adult from the first meeting.
Today she asked me to meet her at KFC Toho cinema in Kabukicho, and I remember about your post, I immediately cancel the appointment.

This is why I grateful for all the insight that I get from all tokyoadultguide member thank you very much.
Nothing wrong with showing up - but as I said to @Ken4fb - if you show up and it's an obvious bait and switch or otherwise feels "off", just give the lady a little cash for her trouble (to avoid her making a scene) and send her on her way, then go to one of the reputable places around Kabukicho and have some fun.
 
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I just getting scammed, basically I just met a lady for 5000 yen tea, and after that I asked her can I continue to adult based on our agreement on chat or not?
She said, she must go to hair salon after that, so at that time I departed with her.
After that when I arrive at home she blocked my account.

This girl insist "Can I get my allowance in advance?" since the beginning she insist of that.
So, beware of girl that keep asking can I get my allowance in advance?

Honestly, I enjoy drinking coffee with her at coffee shop, so I'm okay with that 5000 yen that she took from me.
But, I just don't like her way of doing that, because she blocked me immediately.
 
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I don't think that means what you think it means as that was exactly what @Alice just wrote too.
If the picture and person that shows up is different as in not the same person, I don’t pay.

If the person just used some pictures from before they put on 50 extra, I’ll have to be dissatisfied but still pay.
 
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I just getting scammed, basically I just met a lady for 5000 yen tea, and after that I asked her can I continue to adult based on our agreement on chat or not?
She said, she must go to hair salon after that, so at that time I departed with her.
After that when I arrive at home she blocked my account.

This girl insist "Can I get my allowance in advance?" since the beginning she insist of that.
So, beware of girl that keep asking can I get my allowance in advance?

Honestly, I enjoy drinking coffee with her at coffee shop, so I'm okay with that 5000 yen that she took from me.
But, I just don't like her way of doing that, because she blocked me immediately.
Don’t worry! You are learning!
 
Finally I have sex with girl at Japanese sugar dating, after meeting 10 girls in a week, I blocked or ghosted by nearly half of them, but I never give up and today I finally have sex with girl from Japan sugar dating apps.

I specially thank you to @NewRussian because of his technique I manage to successfully do it today.

I use direct approach in chat, I asked this girl: "Can you do adult from the beginning?"
And she said yes for 20,000 yen, I surprised because it is very cheap compared to others that demand 30,000 yen.
So, I left all my valuable in my apartment, and meet her with enough money for love hotel and her commission.

After that I asked her to come to the place that far from Shinjuku or Shibuya, she agreed and I met her, she is cute although a bit chubby.
We immediately go to love hotel and play there, after sex I give her 30,000 yen and she is surprised, I said to her that she is my first girl that I have sex on that apps, that's why from now on I will give 30,000 yen instead of 20,000 yen.

I also asked, "why nearly half of the girl that I met blocked me?"
She said, "Maybe because you didn't tell you are foreigner from the first time you chat them, although you said it on your profile, but not all girls read your profile."
She also said, "It is not because you are foreigner, many japanese man also faces the same thing, they are blocked after have tea."
 
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I don’t pay bait and switchers.
Yeah like I said in option 1, just leave if the girl doesn’t look like the pictures.

To clarify with number 2, he should still leave if it’s a complete bait and switch, but the “Tea time and then hotel if we like each other” thing is more in case a “click” is important to him.
 
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I just getting scammed, basically I just met a lady for 5000 yen tea, and after that I asked her can I continue to adult based on our agreement on chat or not?
She said, she must go to hair salon after that, so at that time I departed with her.
After that when I arrive at home she blocked my account.

This girl insist "Can I get my allowance in advance?" since the beginning she insist of that.
So, beware of girl that keep asking can I get my allowance in advance?

Honestly, I enjoy drinking coffee with her at coffee shop, so I'm okay with that 5000 yen that she took from me.
But, I just don't like her way of doing that, because she blocked me immediately.
Yeah, say you will give the money inside of the room.
 
Could have been a really good time, how do you know it would turn out the same?
Sorry but unless there were red flags, a sudden cancellation because of someone else’s horror story is mean and unfair to the girl who’ll have to scramble to find someone else for the next day.


These seem like girls who never plan to put out and use it as a trick.

If I were you I would do one of two things:

1. Meet for otana and just leave if the girl does not look like her pictures

Or

2. Meet for cafe first and tell her you want to talk for 30 minutes and do otona if the vibe is right. Don’t pay her if she refuses otona or give only travel money
(of course, tell her those conditions beforehand online and be in mutual agreement about it, don’t surprise her with it at the meeting point)
Yes I fully agree.
One of my current SB was really disappointed when we only met for coffee the first time, I would have been missing on someone great if I just have left it there.
But, I picked the location for example, that's one of the red flag of there's no flexibility.
 
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Yes I fully agree.
One of my current SB was really disappointed when we only met for coffee the first time, I would have been missing on someone great if I just have left it there.
But, I picked the location for example, that's one of the red flag of there's no flexibility.
Agreed. The same thing can be said for the girl who agree to go further on the first date too. They can turn out to be great.

The ability to choose a location seems to be a good indicator so far to avoid those working for shops..
 
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Okay , so this one is definitely bait and switch. I did a reverse image search and found the real person. Highlighted is the red flag.

はじめまして。

現在女優を目指して頑張っております。
近すぎず程よい距離感でお付き合いできたら嬉しいです。

また、お茶と食事などは身バレのリスクがあり控えたく
会ってお互い印象大丈夫でしたらそのままその先の関係でお会いしたいです。


考え合わなければスルーお願いします。
 
Okay , so this one is definitely bait and switch. I did a reverse image search and found the real person. Highlighted is the red flag.

はじめまして。

現在女優を目指して頑張っております。
近すぎず程よい距離感でお付き合いできたら嬉しいです。


また、お茶と食事などは身バレのリスクがあり控えたく
会ってお互い印象大丈夫でしたらそのままその先の関係でお会いしたいです。


考え合わなければスルーお願いします。
An agency template for sure.
 
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But, I picked the location for example, that's one of the red flag of there's no flexibility.
Yeah, could mean they are working for shops. But guys from apps often would not show up so maybe they just want to meet at a convenient location to avoid having to go somewhere while wasting their time and transportation money and then being stood up.

Same goes for guys apparently, even though there is the prospect of money, there are times where the girl does not show up for an appointment made online, without any explanation. Unbelievable.
 
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Hello @Jimmy Chu1969 @NewRussian I want to ask again, I found another weird things.

Usually we pay 3 to 5 for adult, and it means we go to love hotel with them for 2 hours right?
But some girl asked me this question, "Do you cum multiple times?"
I answer them yes I usually cum 2 times in that 2 hours, and some girl said they can just allow me to cum 1 time and then the session is over.

This is weird, I know not all girl is do things like this.
The question is, "Do I need to ask since the beginning in the chat how many times i can cum for that 3 to 5 adult?"
It is usually 2 hours at love hotel and allowed multiple cum right?

Thanks
 
Hello @Jimmy Chu1969 @NewRussian I want to ask again, I found another weird things.

Usually we pay 3 to 5 for adult, and it means we go to love hotel with them for 2 hours right?
But some girl asked me this question, "Do you cum multiple times?"
I answer them yes I usually cum 2 times in that 2 hours, and some girl said they can just allow me to cum 1 time and then the session is over.

This is weird, I know not all girl is do things like this.
The question is, "Do I need to ask since the beginning in the chat how many times i can cum for that 3 to 5 adult?"
It is usually 2 hours at love hotel and allowed multiple cum right?

Thanks
As the TAG manager said, you’ll need to negotiate those terms as there’s no set standard with these ladies. I once learned that “unlimited” didn’t mean as many times as I could. The scene evolves. Just be upfront about it and that’s basically all I would tell you. It depends on the person you are with.
 
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I get blocked by 2 girls in a row, hopefully I only give them 0.5 tea.
Based on our agreement in the chat, I will see them for 0.5 tea and if we okay with it then it will be 3 adult.
When I meet them, they seems nice, but when I asked "Do you want to continue?" They will makes excuses and then after I went home they blocked my account.
Hopefully, I just give them 5000 yen for tea, that's why I will never want give 10,000 yen for tea again.

Just for the info the cost of rental girlfriend website for 1 hour is 4000 yen, so if I pay 5000 yen to go to cafe is worth it.

The @NewRussian technique is the best technique if you want to have sex in sugar dating apps, basically just asked them to do otona from the beginning.
That's why if I want to find girl that can do otona, I will never give them 10,000 yen tea again or meet them for lunch, in the end they will just blocked me after tea and lunch.

They will act nice, smile, and laugh in front of you, they even said that they are not like the other girls that blocked me, but in the end it is the same they blocked me lol.
 
I usually only get blocked by the ones that don’t think their scam will work on me.

Well, these girls are going to block, report, and ghost. So get used to it.
I don't report them because it will risk my account getting banned if they appeal the report, that's why I only give them 5000 yen tea.
5000 yen for tea is worth it, because if you hire girl from rental girlfriend website it will cost 4000 yen for 1 hour and you must give her the transportation cost.

So, although I getting blocked, but I already get the same value as rental girlfriend website.

By the way, tomorrow I will have lunch with a girl that I already had tea with, she said last week that I must have lunch with her before I can sex in the 3rd meeting.
But, based on all this experience I know she will disappear or ghosting me after I give her 15,000 yen lunch money.

That's why just then I cancel my appointment with her tomorrow, basically I said to her that I never want to have lunch on that apps again.
 
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I don't report them because it will risk my account getting banned if they appeal the report, that's why I only give them 5000 yen tea.
5000 yen for tea is worth it, because if you hire girl from rental girlfriend website it will cost 4000 yen for 1 hour and you must give her the transportation cost.

So, although I getting blocked, but I already get the same value as rental girlfriend website.

By the way, tomorrow I have lunch with a girl that I already have tea with, she said last week that I must have lunch with her, and after that in 3rd meeting we can have sex.
But, based on all this experience I know she will disappear or ghosting me after I give her 15,000 yen lunch money.

That's why just then I cancel my appointment with her tomorrow, basically I said to her that I never want to have lunch on that apps again.
5000 yen is probably all that should be offered for tea. I sometimes think that 2000 yen should be the standard if the location is in Tokyo. Apparently, 2 and 3 for dinner is not expected either. I have been refunded money even though they spent 2.5 hours in the restaurant. 2 ladies only took 1. Others were shocked to get 2 even saying that others didn’t give them so much. Some are into clothes so instead of getting money, they want clothes. They even wear them on your dates. That is actually nice!

I never report them either unless they do something that needs reporting. Of course, I learned that you don’t need to report even those because others will do it for you. Then the management team of the app will remove them.
 
Based on our agreement in the chat, I will see them for 0.5 tea and if we okay with it then it will be 3 adult.

At least it seems they held their part of the agreement by having tea and then not going to the love hotel as they were not okay.

They will act nice, smile, and laugh in front of you, they even said that they are not like the other girls that blocked me, but in the end it is the same they blocked me lol.

Did you tell the girls you were meeting that other girls are blocking you? If you did I think we might be starting to figure out why you are getting blocked continuously.
 
Hi all. Today I'm going to tell you how I mastered SD, my ways of communicating, finding girls, sorting them, lowering prices, and other stuff.
I'm from Nagoya and because there aren't many stores that accept gayzines here, SD has become the best site to find girls to play with.

I am not good at English, everything written was translated by the translator)

I've been using SD for about 3 months now, during which time I've met 4 girls, but that's because I don't have much time for it.

Statistics for 3 months:
  • I've been in contact with about 400 girls.
  • About 70% of them are ready to go on a date
  • 15% are ready for sex on the first date
  • 1.5% are ready for FREE hotel meetings
  • 30% of them have husbands:
  • -- 40% are happily married and just want sex on the side, cheating
  • -- 60% are unhappy in marriage, no money, DV, etc.




How does my day go on SD

  • First I answer unanswered messages, add or delete girls from my database (about it later)
  • Then I open a search and start spamming "discoveries" all the girls who do have no my likes, as well as like them to quickly understand who is new, and who I sent messages (many beautiful girls do not lay out photos because they work in institutions, someone has a husband, etc., so my advice to spam all and those who have no photos)
  • Filling the base.
  • Communicating with new and old girls.

Because of the fact that I have 50 messages per hour, control it all is very difficult, so over time I adapted it all.
  • First, the likes, now I put them if I have sent or received a message from a girl.
  • If a girl is ready for SEX and not just a meeting, I add them to my favorites (red check mark near the chat with the girl)

- Base! is my best idea, I have a base in noshne which is broken down into the items I need:

- Name
- Age
- Photo
- Price
- Type
- Sex on the first date
- What can
- What not
- What she wants to try
- Does she want to meet strongly? (You can tell by the conversation that she really wants a foreigner and is willing to meet anywhere at any cost)
- Other notes.


Pre-created messages.​

This point is that a lot of girls have the same answers, and to quickly get to know the girl and understand whether to communicate with her or not, I have created about 50 messages (counted, 79, but many of them are variations on the previous ) which are divided in the same way I have not.


Profile:​

You should have a well-filled profile so you can link to it and not have to reply to a post 20 times どういう人捜しますか。
A bright picture with a face (preferably without a face and a bright T-shirt blouse to stand out from the rest, preferably acid green or orange colors, can be found on the Internet, in my case I just created an image using AI)


Communication​

I used to have a pattern: Greeting, asking who's looking for, request a photo (no matter if it's in the profile or not), talk about price, further conversation on various topics to find out the nature of the girl, what she wants, what she's ready for, etc.
Because of the many refusals pattern has changed to the present: Greeting, request for whom he is looking for, set your terms and price, if agree to request a photo, talk on various topics, now I am more focused on the games that she is ready to play, ready to do what I like, etc.


Now about the girls I met​

(The names have been changed so as not to compromise the girls)
I will add them gradually.

Aya 41yo.

Married, happily married but wants more love.
2 kids.

This was the first girl on SD. I chose very hard among all of them, in the end I chose her. We agreed that we would meet for free and immediately at the hotel. Lucky!!! When we got to the hotel, she was very shy, but I eventually got her talking and we had a really great chat. The water filled up and we went into the tub, gentle kisses on both sides. A blowjob in the shower, fondling together, Aya loosened up completely. Next the bed, I let her lead and she seemed to like it a lot. She jumped on me like a stallion, speeding up and slowing down. After a change of 69 positions, cunny, behind, on top, underneath, she wanted more and more. Eventually we both came. After the cool sex we said goodbye as she had to meet the kids from kindergarten. It was a cool free experience. Unfortunately, she doesn't show up at SD anymore. Apparently she wanted sex for the sake of cheating or something.

Saya 27yo.

Not married. No children.

Nymphomaniac in a word. Agreed for 2. I was deceived by ojisan before, who first said that the first will be 0.5 and then if everything is good will get 5. but not the point. We met at once in the hotel, because all we wanted to do, all our fantasies, lingerie, hotel, etc. were chosen in correspondence. Oh that girl, it all started as soon as the hotel door closed. She immediately pulled down my pants and panties and dug into my dick. While the tub was filling up, we fondled each other and ordered some drinks. Next it was cool, in all the poses she liked, then all the ones I liked. It was a cool experience. After we said goodbye, I will definitely meet up again.

That's all for now, a little tired of writing:)

If you have any questions about the use of SD - welcome to comments.
You are doing all this on the Sugar Daddy App? Curious about what apps/websites you are using?
 
You are doing all this on the Sugar Daddy App? Curious about what apps/websites you are using?
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Hi. I haven't checked in here in a while because of work, wow, so many new messages.Probably found another free girl who just can't be satisfied by her husband. Haven't seen her yet, she looks great. Why I think free,by the conversation, looks like the first girl. but she may not meet until September.
 
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At least it seems they held their part of the agreement by having tea and then not going to the love hotel as they were not okay.



Did you tell the girls you were meeting that other girls are blocking you? If you did I think we might be starting to figure out why you are getting blocked continuously.
Wait! Are you saying that even though all you want is tea, you get served up just desserts in addition? 😳🫨🤯
 
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