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sugardaddy.jp some initial experiences

I really don't like the new site. All we see is lots of small thumb nail pics with no details. You have to click on a profile to see anything about them
 
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My sugar daddy.jp account verification declined 3times. I have use passport and my Japanese insurance card still they have declined me. Did anyone experience that on the site?
 
My sugar daddy.jp account verification declined 3times. I have use passport and my Japanese insurance card still they have declined me. Did anyone experience that on the site?
The only things I've heard of are unclear images or not following the guidelines on making sure nothing is cut-off as described in the document upload process.
 
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My sugar daddy.jp account verification declined 3times. I have use passport and my Japanese insurance card still they have declined me. Did anyone experience that on the site?
I had a mate who got declined when they updated the site a few months back. He'd been a member for a while and then they asked him to reverify his identity and it was a hell of a job to get it done.
If you try and contact them, you just get a template answer every time. We even tried to call them but no one answers the phone.
Then after about 10 times he finally got approved using exactly the same ID he had sent on at least 5 occasions.

Also noticed that they seem to have a "yellow card" system going which flags suspect girls (prob too many complaints). I only found this out when a SB approached me on the site and her profile had a yellow card warning on it.
 
Anybody has any idea if we can filter out girls from agencies?
I've talked to some girls and looks like some of them are actually run by an agency (I could figure that out by one girl using a photo from internet.)
and then suddenly all of them looks like agency ones to me now..

Can someone share a wisdom how to filter them out?
 
Anybody has any idea if we can filter out girls from agencies?
I've talked to some girls and looks like some of them are actually run by an agency (I could figure that out by one girl using a photo from internet.)
and then suddenly all of them looks like agency ones to me now..

Can someone share a wisdom how to filter them out?
From my humble experience, these girls from agencies often want to arrange a date for the very same or next day. Often they are not interested in a m&g, but want to get straight to the point. Therefore, you can first ask for a coffee date or try to arrange a date for a date in 2 weeks and see if you still get a response.
 
From my humble experience, these girls from agencies often want to arrange a date for the very same or next day. Often they are not interested in a m&g, but want to get straight to the point. Therefore, you can first ask for a coffee date or try to arrange a date for a date in 2 weeks and see if you still get a response.
Thanks for a good tip.
I was talking about 3 weeks out, so I thought ones who reply well is real deal.

...But still confused when a girl says "I want to do a m&g and if everything goes well, OTONA is on the table"
I'm probably gonna see her, but not sure if I'm being too naive
 
The other thing you can try is suggest meeting the first time somewhere that isn’t Shinjuku/Shibuya/Ikebukuro etc (or suggest a station that isn’t what she proposes if you absolutely must use one of these places). In addition to needing to get you into an LH asap, agencies have their locales they work out of, and aren’t willing to send girls somewhere else. I do most of my m&gs within reasonable distance of my office (not even close to any LHs) (but far enough away that co workers or clients would not see me) partially for this reason.
 
if everything goes well, OTONA is on the table
A promising menu! It is not necessary to know how to "read the air". Go! Meet her in an area that you can control, be a good boy, and check if the menu is to your taste. I would worry more about the scammers and mentally inestable girls than the agencies.
 
and then suddenly all of them looks like agency ones to me now..

Can someone share a wisdom how to filter them out?
Not sure if they were agency girls, or just frequent direct to hotel, but some I came across had ‘it doesn’t matter what the guy looks like/age’ in their description. I met a few of them and they tended to have been rough, with excessively manicured nails. Never closed.
 
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Not sure if they were agency girls, or just frequent direct to hotel, but some I came across had ‘it doesn’t matter what the guy looks like/age’ in their description. I met a few of them and they tended to have been rough, with excessively manicured nails. Never closed.
I've seldom gotten reply's from these but when I do they want a deposit
 
A promising menu! It is not necessary to know how to "read the air". Go! Meet her in an area that you can control, be a good boy, and check if the menu is to your taste. I would worry more about the scammers and mentally inestable girls than the agencies.
Alrighty. I will try my luck. Will let you guys know what happens.
 
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The other thing you can try is suggest meeting the first time somewhere that isn’t Shinjuku/Shibuya/Ikebukuro etc (or suggest a station that isn’t what she proposes if you absolutely must use one of these places). In addition to needing to get you into an LH asap, agencies have their locales they work out of, and aren’t willing to send girls somewhere else. I do most of my m&gs within reasonable distance of my office (not even close to any LHs) (but far enough away that co workers or clients would not see me) partially for this reason.
I'll keep this in mind. Thanks. Probably will ask her to come to my hotel room anyways.
 
I haven't had a good experience at the 3man range yet (2 girls, both were forgettable).
The 4man range has been more satisfying (2 girls, in their 20s, lots of fun, have seen them each several times now).
I also tried one 8 and one 10 (both girls in their 30s) - just to see if it makes a difference and I'm glad I did as both were very memorable experiences.
The 8 was comparable to the TAG independent escort experience (dinner + hotel, 3+hr), basically an intimate GFE experience.
The 10 actually blew my mind, as it was very different from anything I've done so far. Obviously it all depends on the girl, as in this case that's what made all the difference. She just happens to know she's special so she charges accordingly. :)
I just got a girl wants 100k. How did you find it trustable? She just approached with straight out OTONA for 100K, should I go for M&G with less $$?
 
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I just got a girl wants 100k. How did you find it trustable? She just approached with straight out OTONA for 100K, should I go for M&G with less $$?
lol no.
No girl gets 100k. She's fishing for a sucker who'll just give in. Don't give anything for M&G, not worth paying for, at all.
If you got 100k to burn on demand, then it's your play.
 
I just got a girl wants 100k. How did you find it trustable? She just approached with straight out OTONA for 100K, should I go for M&G with less $$?
My goddess! Offer her 60k and if she accepts, try to avoid walking past stores like Dior, Chanel, Louis Vuitton... because she will make you go in with the excuse of just seeing a bag, and in front of the saleswoman she will ask you to buy it for her as a gift. Honestly, you need a bit more experience to play in that league if you don't want to get milked. Setting limits and be willing to waste some time on failed coffee dates before to find your “lovely” SB, is a must in this game. Be patient, and if you get really itchy, call one of our lovely indies.
 
My goddess! Offer her 60k and if she accepts, try to avoid walking past stores like Dior, Chanel, Louis Vuitton... because she will make you go in with the excuse of just seeing a bag, and in front of the saleswoman she will ask you to buy it for her as a gift. Honestly, you need a bit more experience to play in that league if you don't want to get milked. Setting limits and be willing to waste some time on failed coffee dates before to find your “lovely” SB, is a must in this game. Be patient, and if you get really itchy, call one of our lovely indies.
Agree. Most of these Uni girls are on a tight budget, so if you find one that is more realistic in expectations , it could be a better fit. Till then, TAG Indies could be better match.
 
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No girl gets 100k.
I was in contact with a girl down here on Seeking (one of the few that was a real person). When we finally got around to for a meeting she asked for 100K. I asked if that was for a weekend, and got the replay that it was only for one night, and not even the whole night at that. I offered 50K, and she read me the riot act; called me pathetic loser and other such mean stuff. Needless to say we never met. A couple of months later she messaged me out of the blue, and I repeated my offer of 50K.
 
I was in contact with a girl down here on Seeking (one of the few that was a real person). When we finally got around to for a meeting she asked for 100K. I asked if that was for a weekend, and got the replay that it was only for one night, and not even the whole night at that. I offered 50K, and she read me the riot act; called me pathetic loser and other such mean stuff. Needless to say we never met. A couple of months later she messaged me out of the blue, and I repeated my offer of 50K.
25k would have been the offer from this pathetic loser
 
I was in contact with a girl down here on Seeking (one of the few that was a real person). When we finally got around to for a meeting she asked for 100K. I asked if that was for a weekend, and got the replay that it was only for one night, and not even the whole night at that. I offered 50K, and she read me the riot act; called me pathetic loser and other such mean stuff. Needless to say we never met. A couple of months later she messaged me out of the blue, and I repeated my offer of 50K.
And how did that go?
 
Why not try 49k? Maybe she would feel the need to reply back with more insults then you can drive down the price further while kindly replying and saying something about no good girl should be throwing those words. Since we are just wasting time why not waste some of her time as well lol.
 
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Why not try 49k? Maybe she would feel the need to reply back with more insults then you can drive down the price further while kindly replying and saying something about no good girl should be throwing those words. Since we are just wasting time why not waste some of her time as well lol.
I imagine the kind of GFE session that could finally follow all this “negotiation” process… would be super romantic
 
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Why not try 49k? Maybe she would feel the need to reply back with more insults then you can drive down the price further while kindly replying and saying something about no good girl should be throwing those words. Since we are just wasting time why not waste some of her time as well lol.
Why do you think I said 25.......plus add on I'm being generous with someone with your looks. Sorry if this sounds mean but it's a PW day and not in the greatest of moods