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Keihan Chikan said:
The news is reporting that a Hawaii resident (notice, they didn't say "American citizen") was dicking around in Hubei and evidently managed to sneak back into the U.S. yesterday by making his/her way to another non-restricted Asian country and then booking a direct flight to HNL. News won't say which country he/she flew in from--South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore?
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If there's one thing you can trust about the Chinese government, it's their ability to lock things up.

So when they announced that Hubei is in lockdown, it's done. It's their expertise, it's their pride. No one could flee or sneak out, none of them.

Which means the few Chinese who somehow went to HNL instead of many better destinations have left Hubei for at least 20 days. They are clean by now. No need to panic.

And even if something happens in Hawaii, it's no big deal. It's just an island. Shut down the airports there and it'll be contained.
 
surak said:
If there's one thing you can trust about the Chinese government, it's their ability to lock things up.

So when they announced that Hubei is in lockdown, it's done. It's their expertise, it's their pride. No one could flee or sneak out, none of them.

Which means the few Chinese who somehow went to HNL instead of many better destinations have left Hubei for at least 20 days. They are clean by now. No need to panic.

And even if something happens in Hawaii, it's no big deal. It's just an island. Shut down the airports there and it'll be contained.
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OK. Everyone, run for the hills!
 
warubuta said:
OK. Everyone, run for the hills!
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You are a sage, buta.

The human (and swine) history of dealing with epidemics is a history of running for the hills.

Leprosy, black plague, typhoid, they all made us run.

Until Regeneron works out something fantastic and saves our ass, let's run for the hills.
 
Durg50 said:
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...-1-115-virus-update?__twitter_impression=true

Thats a big ‘revision’
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Yeah, but on the bright side, new cases already plateaued a week back.

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Deaths will rise for a little bit (2-3 weeks behind cases) but it looks like the worst of it is actually behind us.
 
There are potentially bigger threats now.

There will be another cruise ship disembarking at Cambodia today, which departed from Hong Kong on Feb 1st with nearly 3000 ppl onboard.

They will reportedly not go through 14 days of quarantine in Cambodia before flying back home.
 
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China have started including clinical diagnoses in their totals as of today, so numbers will be rising on an apples/oranges basis.
 
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Ken1988 said:
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200213/k10012284531000.html

and this link: the first fatality in Japan (a woman in her 80s in Kanagawa who has not been abroad).
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IMHO the real problem about this case is that, this poor lady could only get a confirmed diagnosis after her death.

Because, until as late as Feb. 4th, Japan officially only provided 2019 Ncov tests to those who:

have ongoing pneumonia symptoms;
have a fever of 37.5 celsius;
either have been to Hubei Province during the past 2 weeks, or have been in contact with those from Hubei.

This poor lady was apparently not qualified until she's dead.
 
TAG Manager said:
For short summaries:
First Link: Tokyo Taxi Driver Infected with Coronavirus, unknown source... "I may have had a Chinese passenger."
Second Link: Confirmed Case in Wakayama, 50 y/o Surgeon Infected.
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This Wakayama case is a really bad news because:

a, he's not been to China recently, nor in contact with any Chinese to his knowledge;

b, he had symptoms from as early as Jan. 31st, and continued his work in a hospital until Feb. 5th;

c, he has 3 colleague showing symptoms as well;

d, It's Wakayama. Not many Chinese tourists bother to go there.
 
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surak said:
IMHO the real problem about this case is that, this poor lady could only get a confirmed diagnosis after her death.
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I fail to see how she would have benefited from the diagnosis. She was most probably in hospital being treated for pneumonia which is exactly the same what she would have been treated with or without the diagnosis.
 
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MikeH said:
I fail to see how she would have benefited from the diagnosis. She was most probably in hospital being treated for pneumonia which is exactly the same what she would have been treated with or without the diagnosis.
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It's a problem because the battle against an epidemic is not about curing some individual, but about containing the spread.

The sooner you have the diagnosis, the sooner you can start tracing her contacts.
 
MikeH said:
I fail to see how she would have benefited from the diagnosis. She was most probably in hospital being treated for pneumonia which is exactly the same what she would have been treated with or without the diagnosis.
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Also, NCP is nastier than ordinary pneumonia.

According to a recent paper on JAMA, out of a total of 138 NCP patients, 55.8% of them suffered from one or more kinds of complications, including shocks, cardiac injuries, kidney failures, arrhythmia and ARDS:

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surak said:
Also, NCP is nastier than ordinary pneumonia.

According to a recent paper on JAMA, out of a total of 138 NCP patients, 55.8% of them suffered from one or more kinds of complications, including shocks, cardiac injuries, kidney failures, arrhythmia and ARDS:

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Given that the average NCP patient is in their late 60s or above, you do realise you'd see similar complications from regular pneumonia in that age group as well?
 
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The point of tracing contacts however is valid. Might also make a difference for the medical staff.
On the other hand, if you were to test anyone with a little fever that would certainly exceed capacities.
 
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